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hello this is Nick Pope and you're

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listening to the paranormal UK radio

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network the UK's biggest paranormal

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Network and this is paranormal

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dimensions with David Young hello and

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welcome to the show

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Thank You Nick right hopefully you've

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got another good show for you today I've

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got a fantastic author author for you

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his name's tossing clear is you said two

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really good selling books out truth

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proof and there's another one just

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coming out to prove three and I'll just

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be inviting him only just a moment but

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before I do that I'll just do my usual

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call-outs for people

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we've got King Jenkins New York City in

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New York USA Eddie Richardson

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pulse-width UK and Bill rook York UK now

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hopefully I'll be having Bill Brooke on

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at some point and we may even we may

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have a mention bill during this show

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because I think he has experiences with

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like beings and things such as the book

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that Paul talks about hey I think the

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thing the best thing to do is if you

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just pull right now hi Paul yeah hello

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there David yeah thank you very much for

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inviting me to speak on show today very

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good and interesting I need to say thank

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you to Nick Pope because he wrote me a

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few words for the third book so if he

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gets to hear this Thank You Nick another

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one well hopefully well I think he wrote

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one just on your sick but a little

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kidney on the back he said he said a

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fascinating and disturbing collection of

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accounts Nick Pope is quite nice when

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two notable authors those witless three

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but other people take an interest in

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endemic Tyler I don't know if you've

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ever had Derek on the show

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not yet but it's a name in the frame

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yeah fabulous guest he would make you

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know and the sort of I won't say credit

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your work but the medicine thing yeah

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that's worth probably giving a thumbs up

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and I thank those people well I said as

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we go

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today David you just asked me whatever

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you want and we'll just for whatever

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direction you want to take it yeah well

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I'll mention your first two books you

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got truth proof it's the truth that

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leaves no proof was your first book

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because that came out a couple of years

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ago didn't it yes sixteen and then we

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show the proof to be on the thinking

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mind and then with sounds a bit simple

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simply sticking it to throw three

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bringing down the light yeah and there

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will be a trouble for listeners I mean

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they'll go beyond this Paul Evan got

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your third one yet but I'm gonna get it

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alright I'll expect you at scribbled on

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it for me so take you Paul perhaps you'd

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like to tell us how you first got into

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ufology if you will you know well

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there's a website if you can call it

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that I'm me self any favors because I'm

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not that brilliant with social media so

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there's a website which is chilled proof

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webs.com but before that well I saw

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working I think from about 2002 to 2013

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ILF was intelligent light forms which is

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basically what I believe we've been

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viewing upon the East Yorkshire Wolds

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worlds of the larger expanses of land

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intermittent did the space woodland in

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between them but mainly cheap grazing

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but you've got these strange Spears of

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line that will just suddenly appear and

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fives and you're getting them over the

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sea as well and no doubt we're dealing

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with the same phenomena but what I've

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what I've found David and you know I'm

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no expert on this out I'm saying as

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everybody who's listening to this and

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everybody all goes to the conferences

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I'm searching for answers but repeat

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areas are showing time and time again

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and I'm sort of naming them the multi

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phenomena areas and so MFA's I realized

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is that these locations don't just throw

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up UFO sightings and I think you know to

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sort of kind of phrase be a UFO

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investigator or researcher I think we

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should throw net a lot wider and include

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everything I think we're all missing a

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trick you know the people are into the

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the ghost aspect of it and them all to

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get it but because I think what

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ultimately he's all linked I don't know

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the agree with you probably know I've

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set that on several I don't know if you

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forgive previous shows but that's that's

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my or not my idea it's my it's not the

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way I think as well I think a few years

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ago I couldn't see any links in it you

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know but over that from what I've been

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hearing and sort of studying and reading

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about over the last sort of ten years or

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so I really do agree with you I think

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it's all linked it's all connected

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somehow I mean just because we don't

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understand it doesn't mean that it's not

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happening and it can't happen I mean

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there's too many people entrenched in in

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their box of research shall we say and I

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think that's I know I think it's a

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mistake I mean given if you jump to you

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know thousands of miles to other side at

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world and looked at skinwalker and

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you'll see that every type of phenomena

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is manifesting there from structured

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craft reported you know over the years

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to animal mutilation to to cryptids to

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big cats so it's a beast to meet it

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would be stupid to think that there

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isn't a thought maybe location is the

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key that's what I used that's what I say

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in the first book and the second book

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location is key because these things do

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seem to be appearing in and around the

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same locations constantly and he's it'll

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be interesting if we could get these

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multi phenomena areas we know they're

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established in other parts of world but

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if we could get researchers in other

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parts of world to report when the alien

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big caps are being seen for instance

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because we get around Eastern North

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Yorkshire David and it would be

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interesting if we could find out get

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some networking going to find out if in

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the other active areas the caps are

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being seen there as well and for

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instance are it's the UFOs have been

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seen the light forms and for want of a

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better word you know these these spheres

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of light that I don't

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we know our earth lights exist I mean

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that can't be denied but I feel that the

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delights that we're observing over the

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sea of Benton and Flamborough there's an

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awareness to them and I've spoke to too

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many to a'lamin Rock anglers seen them

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myself not to think that these there's

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more to these things than than just a

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random and you know the movement of the

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earth thousands and thousands of feet

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below the surface that these things that

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seem to have the ability to switch on

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punishing to a multiple of four or five

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switch off and appear in a different

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part of sky instantly and that they're

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in formation in lines that are equally

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spaced there's no randomness to the most

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of the time what they're about I don't

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know I mean whether there's anything but

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interestingly a in the next book because

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I said I'm well on with the next one I

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have a an incredible report from an a

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contracts manager for the mo d and I'm

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gonna be using his full name because

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he's allowed me to do all this and but

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this is we've moved out of Eastern North

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Yorkshire and I'm sorry listeners if I'm

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rambling a little bit but this story

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well it were given it as part of his job

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on this contract from from 2011 I

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believe it was it was given a house to

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rent overlooking the sea this is in

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Cornwall and he contacted me to say he'd

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seen the spheres of light that is read

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about in the truth prose books and

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that's that's what prompted him to

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contact me we've had lots of

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conversations but east

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he got binoculars high-powered

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binoculars on these lights and there are

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plenty of news coverage at the time

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people had seen them but he claims that

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inside the light it could see gold

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pyramids which is I've just found it

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interesting I mean I've never observed

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anything like that inside them but I

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mean this is it's an evening sighting

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it's not quite dark as I say little guys

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giving me full permission to use his

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name in the book which I will be doing

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and the the story is pretty terrifying

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to be honest for you because he hadn't

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yeah you had the most terrifying

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experience after the night he saw these

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these objects these spheres of light

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to see Andy bethey believes that that

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was to stop him talking about them but I

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don't I don't know if I can talk about

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what happened to him on radio I'm gonna

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write about it but as I say I've just

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gone off on a tangent there hmm

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David you know we would in the area that

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we're we're in in Eastern North

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Yorkshire that doesn't what I'm looking

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into it Benton and Flandre and a bit

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further up the coast beaten and ravens

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scare and Philae it's not new this stuff

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goes back decades

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hundreds of years you know quite a few

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of the stories especially in your book

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folklore is it was what we once termed

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as science before science codified it

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and and tried to bring it into some kind

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of unity and fit it into boxes that we

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could understand we're all folklore

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David we're all we're all sort of living

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folklore I'm and I think there's just

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because it's not the written word and

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people say all stories get embellished

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well of course they do yeah but if the

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same story isn't coming out today that

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we're coming out hundreds of years ago

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then there has to be some substance to

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them if you've got people still

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reporting seeing an upright doglike

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creature around the areas of flexin like

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that like it's been reported for

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hundreds of years then you think to

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yourself hang on a minute

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either all these people are liars or

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there's an element of truth in this and

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I've said it many times David you know

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on radio shows and and I think I said it

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in the books as well I don't actually

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believe that there's anything that could

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transform from a man to a beast

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I don't but that doesn't mean that I

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don't think that there isn't some truth

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to these stories because there's too

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many people talking about it and coming

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out with these things I mean just

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recently as early as February the 7th of

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this year I don't know whether you

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looked at the Bensons phenomena the

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documentary that mean Chris Turner did

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not yet know I'm looking forward well it

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obviously you know that

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did elusive about the British trip to

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the dog map that creatures although I'm

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not really fond of the word dog man

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although we're not it playing with words

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that way I was actually going to ask you

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about this but you might as well Kari

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ordered intensive a werewolf obviously

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conjures up images from movies and

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underworld people associate it with

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silver bullets I mean it's a sad - I

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don't want to invent a new word for it

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but I think we've got to stare with

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werewolf just which people would maybe

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get away from idea that there's some

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kind of transformation off from a man or

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woman to a beast because I believe

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there's something to it I think they the

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American Indians have probably got the

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best idea with the skinwalkers believing

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this is a creature that can live between

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worlds you know and that's its ability

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to slip between our world and it's only

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interdimensional creature

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yeah yeah and that's what I you know I

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mean I'm willing to be convinced

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otherwise and I'm willing to be shown

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otherwise I'd love to but at the moment

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that's where I am leaning because I

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believe it exists

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with the latest documentary bringing

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down the light we've spoke to a guy who

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lives in Katyn and with his wife and he

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claims that this this creature literally

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in his peripheral vision jumped to the

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front of a garden just on the edge of

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the flick stone and Katyn cast that's

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the area of wetland that used to be once

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lake flix than in Paoli thick times

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that's 11,000 years ago so it's a pretty

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remote area and there's a god bungalows

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along the edge of the cars from from one

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leap this thing left into the middle of

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the road and another leap and it were

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over onto the cars and he described this

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this wiry thin

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creature that when fat along everything

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ran out of proportion with it ease

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he's the legs operated like a canines

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legs but he didn't describe it as having

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something like a wolf's head or anything

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and he's adamant about what he saw and

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it's so much so and there's no mug this

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phone I mean I think he's finally

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qualified well I know he is and he's not

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on camera you know it you get some

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people David and they're telling you the

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truth as you know we've all come across

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them that's why we get people in the

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audience

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confluences myself included where the

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comment the coming to listen to an

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experience because of many of them have

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got fabulous experiences of their own

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probably better than mine better than

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yours

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but they just don't want to talk about

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it well so I'm back to my point this

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guy's willing to go on camera with his

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name and stay at what he's seen and many

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people won't do that we've got someone

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the look on the film that we've blurred

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the faces out we've got a guy who claims

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he worked for the mo D at Benton after

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it shipped and that's main Chris I've

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interviewed him for over an hour and I

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spoke it to him previously because I've

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set the interview up and this guy claims

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that his job was first of all he's got

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some special abilities and I'm not

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talking they could teleport or anything

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silly like that Bobby I'm not with it

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we'll be in it we'll be in the

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documentary but what I'm saying is he

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was employed after the base closed to

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spend time around the base trying to

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look for unexplained phenomena explained

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phenomena which he never found he never

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found nothing he's quite open about that

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is quite truthful about that the fact

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that he never found anything but as his

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role working for the MLD are working it

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would even air force actually that's

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that was his job and he comes out with

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some really interesting things he's an

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interesting guy I split that road and

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nobody live ever heard this man speak

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before but when you do hear him speak

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you'll realize you realize how

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interesting is it is I mean this guy

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claims that the mo D or the powers that

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be already know that there's different

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species of well I'm reluctant to column

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alien because I don't know where they

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come from but it's read if they know at

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least that there was three different

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species manifesting or or appearing

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around that area and he didn't even get

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told the names of these things he just

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got told one two and three there's any

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claim that they were coming through

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portals in the area now once again part

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of the job of doing this documentaries

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is to get other people's stories so I'm

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not saying I believe everything that

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somebody's told meö Klein I'm saying

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just like we've just been talking about

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this that you know the accounts are the

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flicks turn werewolf from all I do boys

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well me and Andy Ramsden I don't know if

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you know Andy yeah a bit I think you do

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oh yeah yeah we've seen something highly

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unusual at Benton bikini I'm not sure if

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you were 2016 or 2017 that came from the

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edge of the cliff and people on all

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fours meet ran and it cleared a

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three-bar fence and went up the field

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and when we put a light on up the field

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and they became very scared that this

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whatever it was a big yeah I think a lot

401
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of think about this but yeah that's

402
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correct it blinked and looked away and

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sort of dipti said down and it weren't

404
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frightened it was which draws I mean

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people might be thinking well these guys

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have seen a fox or a badger let me tell

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you I spent years up here around foxes

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and badgers be trying to distract we've

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been trying to find out what's

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slaughtering the livestock or put Benton

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which stopped early this year because

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there's no longer livestock up there

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they've done with can't tech not suffer

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any more losses but because whatever was

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killing the livestock and I realize

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listeners I'm jumping about all over the

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place here I think I've just took David

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by surprise listeners today because

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there are you think I didn't I'm this

420
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it's my fault entirely but whatever's

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killing the livestock is is not really

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that interested in eating it he wants to

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remove all the skin from the faces

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remove their eyes and so is a

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connections with the older the host

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mutilations and cattle mutilations but

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from years ago like which mountain he'll

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investigate you think well we

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investigated a lot of it as well they

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possibly could be but we still haven't

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established what's what not even a clue

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what's doing it because whatever is

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doing it in my opinion is is marine

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based as well because when it but it is

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piqued David and all the pictures are in

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the new book but now say all there's

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quite a lot of pictures that are quite

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graphic in the new book depicting what

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just what I've said I'm not just

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these things without the evidence

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because we did that on the Bentham

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phenomenon and we do to YouTube we

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didn't show the images that were the

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Ries but people believe that we were

445
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just talking hot-air well all the images

446
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are in the book and all the images will

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be in bringing down the light what what

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what we were finding around the the

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edges of the cliffs and on this on the

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shoreline very close were have a purpose

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you know the little dolphin type map was

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about 4 foot long but interesting injury

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to him what they've got a huge oles

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through their jaws and we're talking

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three to four inch round holes you know

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sort of smashed all the jaws and no

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other signs of injury and interestingly

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with the shape usually the throat had

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been torn out but nothing had been eaten

460
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and there's no blood you know we will

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find in roe deer carcasses with heads

462
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removed Badgers with heads removed but

463
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not just edged skinned around the waist

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as though they've got the shirt off it

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there's no better easier way of saying

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other than that if my cab really and

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when you consider the ear odious

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probably fastest thing in UK and

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probably only dog to catch it would be a

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ground well you know when a I'm sorry

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for sounding if I'm a bit tool Maccabiah

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David you'll stop me well you know if a

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dogs predated on a sheep or a deer

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you're gonna find puncture wounds you're

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gonna find bad bite marks all over the

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animal they're not they're not very

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selective they're not like a big cat

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which is calculated and knows what part

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of the animal - you have old I know what

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you made they they actually grip they

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don't get all of them bond and echo

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wherever they can get with peace in the

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past so I know how they go off the

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rabbits and things and wherever they can

485
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but what you've got here are animals

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that for want of a better word of just

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being don't have been killed instantly

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mmm the eyes look look like they've been

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sucked out with a Hoover there's no

490
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trauma and the years put off very very

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clean cut so what's doing it I don't

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know because I mean some people have

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suggested is it human is the human

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element to it because as people real

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know I probably

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as talked about the satanic cult that

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once operated upper area Benson and is

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it something to do with them well

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personally I don't think so because the

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locations where these animals have been

501
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found as very remote and he dad to get

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they'd after use torches and that and

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there would be seen by the farm the

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farmers I mean when I'm talking about

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this amount to sheep people have said to

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me a police-involved heard I've heard

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people seen comments and well police

508
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would be involved yet police are

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involved they haven't got a clue what it

510
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is they've set up there when Ike's night

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scopes and found one dead in same field

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where the bad night scopes the police

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have not got a clue I don't know what's

514
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doing it I wish I did but whatever it is

515
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it's it's land-based it's it's marine

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based and it's capable of it's in these

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things an absolute the 78 tequila use is

518
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just devastating him and there's a

519
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museum field as well it's not really

520
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touching alums it seems to be the adult

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use but say they've gone now there's

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none in the fields now and thank God

523
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because he's can't be well he's a sudden

524
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death but is still tragic actually you'd

525
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like a farm was from money every time

526
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ones hit is Lou yeah and with with I

527
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mean you don't know the area David but I

528
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did a bit of digging and I ran livestock

529
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auction houses and different places

530
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around the area and it turns out that

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they're probably about 16 to 18 miles up

532
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the coast as the crow flies at Ravens

533
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car a similar thing was happening

534
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they're all on the course though I mean

535
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this is on the edge of the sea just like

536
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these these locations and then if you

537
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went about 25 24 miles down the coast

538
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towards all it was happening there to

539
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play just just it just towards the coast

540
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off Spratly so we weren't isolated we

541
00:23:29,380 --> 00:23:26,570
weren't unique but it was it's they is

542
00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:29,390
the nature of the injuries that's unique

543
00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:34,090
and I don't really understand it I mean

544
00:23:38,410 --> 00:23:36,290
there's no accounting for it I mean I

545
00:23:40,750 --> 00:23:38,420
thought I became alerted to it on I

546
00:23:43,770 --> 00:23:40,760
think it was December a New Year's Day

547
00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:43,780
New Year's Day 28

548
00:23:47,790 --> 00:23:46,450
because the the the police officers have

549
00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:47,800
been to see a guy who lives in the

550
00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:50,050
danger that Danes dagger vagrants he's

551
00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:52,450
lived there for 11 years and they wanted

552
00:23:57,300 --> 00:23:53,890
to know if it seen any highly unusual

553
00:24:00,690 --> 00:23:57,310
animals while slipping in this you know

554
00:24:02,940 --> 00:24:00,700
in this woodland and they told him we

555
00:24:05,010 --> 00:24:02,950
went we took the [\h__\h] some food

556
00:24:06,450 --> 00:24:05,020
actually and that's why I got to know

557
00:24:08,970 --> 00:24:06,460
about the story and they told him that

558
00:24:10,620 --> 00:24:08,980
in the weeks previous animals have been

559
00:24:12,810 --> 00:24:10,630
killed at Bentham but when I found out

560
00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:12,820
about it it turns out it had been going

561
00:24:17,670 --> 00:24:15,970
on all year but they're very the quite

562
00:24:19,530 --> 00:24:17,680
secular and they don't really share much

563
00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:19,540
information with each other so you don't

564
00:24:24,810 --> 00:24:21,610
know what all the farms it's happening

565
00:24:26,550 --> 00:24:24,820
to it's very difficult to just like all

566
00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:26,560
close-knit communities just like in

567
00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:28,210
South Yorkshire and other places where

568
00:24:32,730 --> 00:24:30,850
there's mining communities they keep the

569
00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:32,740
cells to the cells and that the farming

570
00:24:36,660 --> 00:24:34,210
stuck are no difference in the trawler

571
00:24:39,930 --> 00:24:36,670
men are no different difficult to get

572
00:24:43,310 --> 00:24:39,940
information in the newspapers always a

573
00:24:45,330 --> 00:24:43,320
sort of a cover-up going on to think

574
00:24:46,950 --> 00:24:45,340
call it a coverall but there's been

575
00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:46,960
nothing in the newspapers and

576
00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:49,810
interestingly enough they know all about

577
00:24:54,150 --> 00:24:50,170
it

578
00:24:57,810 --> 00:24:54,160
they I mean the newspaper a few months

579
00:24:59,490 --> 00:24:57,820
ago the Bridlington echo contacted me

580
00:25:01,530 --> 00:24:59,500
because there was a big cat scene I

581
00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:01,540
can't remember the exact date it'll

582
00:25:05,610 --> 00:25:03,850
probably be three months ago now there's

583
00:25:08,850 --> 00:25:05,620
been a big black cat seen by numerous

584
00:25:10,890 --> 00:25:08,860
people booked him and we're talking

585
00:25:14,220 --> 00:25:10,900
Labrador sized cat which is interesting

586
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:14,230
because as we've said before as I've

587
00:25:18,150 --> 00:25:15,970
said location is key and where's it

588
00:25:21,780 --> 00:25:18,160
being seen before at booked and over the

589
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:21,790
years you know going back 10 20 30 years

590
00:25:25,470 --> 00:25:23,530
people have report have seen a cat

591
00:25:29,700 --> 00:25:25,480
around that time I think it was match

592
00:25:31,170 --> 00:25:29,710
time booked and so they asked me and

593
00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:31,180
then they did a little article and put a

594
00:25:35,550 --> 00:25:32,770
picture of me in and I think though they

595
00:25:37,890 --> 00:25:35,560
were doing this but know for a fact

596
00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:37,900
anyway that this guy knows all about the

597
00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:41,290
sheep but they're not seriously did not

598
00:25:47,490 --> 00:25:43,450
did not run it in papers or anything but

599
00:25:51,390 --> 00:25:47,500
I don't know I mean at the moment on

600
00:25:54,930 --> 00:25:51,400
local TV the local TV at all nothing at

601
00:25:57,360 --> 00:25:54,940
all nothing at all because there is

602
00:26:02,850 --> 00:25:57,370
quite a big local incident so we have

603
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:02,860
with the animals I found out about it

604
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:06,490
when the when the farmer first realized

605
00:26:11,100 --> 00:26:08,170
anything was wrong because when I found

606
00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:11,110
out that on New Year's Day I managed to

607
00:26:14,370 --> 00:26:13,090
trace the farmer I went to speak to him

608
00:26:17,100 --> 00:26:14,380
and I asked him if he'd let me look into

609
00:26:19,110 --> 00:26:17,110
it for him and I said it took nothing

610
00:26:20,580 --> 00:26:19,120
that's why I've not drawn no conclusions

611
00:26:22,350 --> 00:26:20,590
David I'm not one of these people that's

612
00:26:24,930 --> 00:26:22,360
gonna turn around and go oh this has got

613
00:26:26,820 --> 00:26:24,940
to be alien related or this is some kind

614
00:26:29,820 --> 00:26:26,830
of land-based

615
00:26:32,250 --> 00:26:29,830
unknown predator it's all up in the air

616
00:26:34,530 --> 00:26:32,260
we really don't know what's responsible

617
00:26:37,050 --> 00:26:34,540
for it and whilst what is interesting is

618
00:26:39,690 --> 00:26:37,060
that these lights are seen when a lot of

619
00:26:41,790 --> 00:26:39,700
the incidents take place so that can't

620
00:26:43,740 --> 00:26:41,800
be denied even jumping from the sheep

621
00:26:46,290 --> 00:26:43,750
for a moment we're even going back to

622
00:26:49,650 --> 00:26:46,300
1970 and the trash of light in excess 8

623
00:26:52,140 --> 00:26:49,660
9 4 on September the 8th 1970 what would

624
00:26:54,030 --> 00:26:52,150
excess 8 9 4 allegedly doing it were

625
00:26:57,210 --> 00:26:54,040
pursuing a light and vanished from radar

626
00:27:00,210 --> 00:26:57,220
5 miles off Benton you know I mean the

627
00:27:02,430 --> 00:27:00,220
the actual written work from other

628
00:27:05,310 --> 00:27:02,440
people might say vanished from radar 20

629
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:05,320
miles off Benton believed didn't dad

630
00:27:09,660 --> 00:27:07,570
I've got the flight board logs I know I

631
00:27:10,980 --> 00:27:09,670
know where it disappeared from we're not

632
00:27:12,990 --> 00:27:10,990
splitting hairs here but what I'm saying

633
00:27:16,260 --> 00:27:13,000
is it was pursuit it was allegedly

634
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:16,270
pursuing a light I think there's a lot

635
00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:19,330
of information to jump off fence we

636
00:27:23,940 --> 00:27:21,490
access 8 9 4 and say I believe it's UFO

637
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:23,950
related but jumping back to the shape

638
00:27:28,950 --> 00:27:27,490
and what's been happening I I told him

639
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:28,960
and you know I'm not gonna form any

640
00:27:34,650 --> 00:27:32,410
conclusions just let me try and find out

641
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:34,660
what's happening and I spent best part

642
00:27:40,380 --> 00:27:37,210
of 18 months going up to those fields in

643
00:27:42,360 --> 00:27:40,390
between 4:00 and 5:00 a.m. and finding

644
00:27:45,450 --> 00:27:42,370
the carcasses but never finding the

645
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:45,460
culprit never finding any evidence to

646
00:27:52,260 --> 00:27:50,050
say human activity or paranormal

647
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:52,270
activity if you want to just put that

648
00:27:56,430 --> 00:27:54,250
into some kind a big bowl and shake it

649
00:27:59,370 --> 00:27:56,440
up because I don't know what but

650
00:28:02,040 --> 00:27:59,380
interestingly after we did the Benton

651
00:28:03,990 --> 00:28:02,050
phenomena David I don't normally look at

652
00:28:05,790 --> 00:28:04,000
comments I look at the comments but I

653
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:05,800
don't normally reply to them because if

654
00:28:08,910 --> 00:28:07,450
you get if you start replying to if

655
00:28:10,730 --> 00:28:08,920
there's anything negative you just feed

656
00:28:14,299 --> 00:28:10,740
in however you

657
00:28:15,799 --> 00:28:14,309
I'm not I'm not into that so I don't

658
00:28:18,289 --> 00:28:15,809
really get involved but this guy had

659
00:28:20,330 --> 00:28:18,299
told me he'd put in comments when he

660
00:28:22,190 --> 00:28:20,340
says these blokes aren't lying I've seen

661
00:28:23,510 --> 00:28:22,200
something at Bentham and I think he said

662
00:28:24,769 --> 00:28:23,520
I've seen it that were like from a

663
00:28:27,019 --> 00:28:24,779
nightmare I don't know they would I

664
00:28:29,539 --> 00:28:27,029
wrote a fair bit and they were just an

665
00:28:30,649 --> 00:28:29,549
error in this chaps message you know so

666
00:28:33,230 --> 00:28:30,659
I messaged him I said I'd love to hear

667
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:33,240
what you've seen so it turns out that it

668
00:28:37,130 --> 00:28:35,010
actually written about it somewhere and

669
00:28:39,740 --> 00:28:37,140
I found it on February the 7th the day

670
00:28:42,649 --> 00:28:39,750
came back and they'd gone up to Benton

671
00:28:46,159 --> 00:28:42,659
to do some wild camping they're

672
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:46,169
ex-military that they are that wouldn't

673
00:28:51,860 --> 00:28:47,130
be in the military now they're getting

674
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:51,870
on there in late forties and they were

675
00:28:55,820 --> 00:28:53,970
on cliff tops and he described worthy

676
00:28:58,279 --> 00:28:55,830
word and he said they packed in the car

677
00:29:00,080 --> 00:28:58,289
park at the RSPB and he said he went

678
00:29:01,700 --> 00:29:00,090
through between he said when they went

679
00:29:04,220 --> 00:29:01,710
onto the cliff tops they took her right

680
00:29:05,810 --> 00:29:04,230
which meant that the fence stopping

681
00:29:07,310 --> 00:29:05,820
people falling over the cliffs was on

682
00:29:10,639 --> 00:29:07,320
the left and the walking towards

683
00:29:12,590 --> 00:29:10,649
Flamborough and he's describing this he

684
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:12,600
says and we lit a pair of yellow eyes or

685
00:29:16,279 --> 00:29:14,610
pinky yellow eyes which is sort of

686
00:29:20,510 --> 00:29:16,289
instantly drew me to what me and under

687
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:20,520
ammidon saw he said the dogs were the

688
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:22,770
sisters and they wouldn't do anything he

689
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:23,970
said it was strange they wouldn't run

690
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:26,010
about they won't distort with us he says

691
00:29:32,330 --> 00:29:29,610
and he also noted that the air fell off

692
00:29:34,159 --> 00:29:32,340
he said it felt electric they said it

693
00:29:36,019 --> 00:29:34,169
more weird he says the airs on the back

694
00:29:38,330 --> 00:29:36,029
of my arms and on my neck was stuck up

695
00:29:41,330 --> 00:29:38,340
he says we did we realized it felt

696
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:41,340
strange we realized it was so really

697
00:29:46,639 --> 00:29:44,490
quiet but obviously it's only looking

698
00:29:48,649 --> 00:29:46,649
back when you start analyzing it that

699
00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:48,659
you know so he said so he's not on his

700
00:29:51,799 --> 00:29:50,130
own he's with someone else he said then

701
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:51,809
we lit these big yellow eyes up it says

702
00:29:56,690 --> 00:29:53,970
but this thing didn't act like a rabbit

703
00:29:59,480 --> 00:29:56,700
would acted like stuck in the headlights

704
00:30:01,519 --> 00:29:59,490
it just sent to turn away so so we

705
00:30:05,539 --> 00:30:01,529
carried on walking and lit these eyes up

706
00:30:07,669 --> 00:30:05,549
again and it hadn't moved said and then

707
00:30:09,620 --> 00:30:07,679
we came to what a viewing platform and

708
00:30:11,419 --> 00:30:09,630
I'm bearing in mind this is this is in

709
00:30:13,130 --> 00:30:11,429
between 3:00 and 4:00 in morning and

710
00:30:16,100 --> 00:30:13,140
this guy is not familiar with area.the

711
00:30:18,169 --> 00:30:16,110
from Liverpool well they get all over

712
00:30:20,779 --> 00:30:18,179
doing little bits for this wild camping

713
00:30:22,430 --> 00:30:20,789
stuff anyway so he's not got an interest

714
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:22,440
in any of this David I need to say this

715
00:30:26,510 --> 00:30:23,610
that they weren't there

716
00:30:30,020 --> 00:30:26,520
for some paranormal experience or

717
00:30:32,150 --> 00:30:30,030
anything remotely related I think that

718
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:32,160
probably just reliving old times when

719
00:30:37,820 --> 00:30:35,490
the things that done in the years in in

720
00:30:39,350 --> 00:30:37,830
military but anyway so if we came to a

721
00:30:42,590 --> 00:30:39,360
viewing platform he says and then about

722
00:30:44,810 --> 00:30:42,600
I don't know 50 to 75 foot away there

723
00:30:46,700 --> 00:30:44,820
were two gate posts without a gate on

724
00:30:50,060 --> 00:30:46,710
well I can't picture these gate posts

725
00:30:52,310 --> 00:30:50,070
now the big 8b8 post and they're not

726
00:30:54,020 --> 00:30:52,320
them that's what it basically what they

727
00:30:55,940 --> 00:30:54,030
are they've never had a gate on they

728
00:30:58,039 --> 00:30:55,950
said then we walked towards the gate

729
00:30:59,240 --> 00:30:58,049
posts I mean this gal probably listen to

730
00:31:03,830 --> 00:30:59,250
this because I've been speaking to him

731
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:03,840
today and we'll lit we put the torch on

732
00:31:09,740 --> 00:31:07,410
he says an hunkered down and and once

733
00:31:10,940 --> 00:31:09,750
again please listeners and we're not

734
00:31:13,970 --> 00:31:10,950
trying to sell a bringing down the light

735
00:31:15,770 --> 00:31:13,980
dvd-r but will be but no but David will

736
00:31:18,289 --> 00:31:15,780
be talking about this awakening

737
00:31:21,140 --> 00:31:18,299
conference and we'll be playing the

738
00:31:23,810 --> 00:31:21,150
recording of what is told me so it's not

739
00:31:25,580 --> 00:31:23,820
just my words because I've asked him and

740
00:31:28,789 --> 00:31:25,590
it allowed me to record him he says this

741
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:28,799
thing was hunkered down and he swore but

742
00:31:33,409 --> 00:31:30,570
I'll not swear he said and he says at

743
00:31:35,570 --> 00:31:33,419
first I thought it was a huge hyena he

744
00:31:38,270 --> 00:31:35,580
said he said like a humped hunched back

745
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:38,280
and all bristles on the back of it on

746
00:31:43,070 --> 00:31:41,370
his back or bristling the fur he says

747
00:31:46,159 --> 00:31:43,080
and then the next thing he stood on two

748
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:46,169
legs he said and this thing was seven

749
00:31:51,590 --> 00:31:49,530
foot tall wow yeah I mean I you know I

750
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:51,600
mean I'm only relaying a story I have

751
00:31:55,820 --> 00:31:53,490
not anything seven foot tall he said

752
00:31:58,810 --> 00:31:55,830
book he said he had a huge barrel chest

753
00:32:02,120 --> 00:31:58,820
on it arms that were far too long for

754
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:02,130
its body even though it was long and and

755
00:32:07,340 --> 00:32:05,130
not over muscular and and hands he said

756
00:32:10,250 --> 00:32:07,350
he didn't have paws he had hands with

757
00:32:12,890 --> 00:32:10,260
claws he said he took a step towards us

758
00:32:15,289 --> 00:32:12,900
it said a head full of teeth he is like

759
00:32:19,820 --> 00:32:15,299
a Alsatian tack things at side of its

760
00:32:21,980 --> 00:32:19,830
head and a silvery form chest and I said

761
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:21,990
yeah and they were terrified the other

762
00:32:29,450 --> 00:32:25,890
guy the other guy have he just won't

763
00:32:30,830 --> 00:32:29,460
talk about it this guy is you can feel

764
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:30,840
the fear in his voice when he's talking

765
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:32,250
about it and I've never spoke to anybody

766
00:32:35,540 --> 00:32:34,290
that I'm really being terrified when

767
00:32:37,020 --> 00:32:35,550
they've seen these things and anybody

768
00:32:39,300 --> 00:32:37,030
was listening to

769
00:32:40,740 --> 00:32:39,310
the radio shows about the werewolves and

770
00:32:43,620 --> 00:32:40,750
the dogma alleged of Man sightings

771
00:32:45,900 --> 00:32:43,630
you'll nobody comes away with feeling

772
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:45,910
that it were a nice thing to see not

773
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:47,170
from what I've seen he says they're

774
00:32:52,500 --> 00:32:50,410
backed away and when obviously they're

775
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:52,510
there to tell the story which leads me

776
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:54,370
to think that there's some other

777
00:32:57,450 --> 00:32:56,170
intelligence here I mean I don't even

778
00:33:01,520 --> 00:32:57,460
know if it's something that's playing

779
00:33:05,370 --> 00:33:01,530
with our minds you know David as in

780
00:33:07,020 --> 00:33:05,380
projecting into our mind our worst

781
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:07,030
nightmare if that makes sense because

782
00:33:12,510 --> 00:33:09,730
you would think an apex predator like

783
00:33:14,370 --> 00:33:12,520
that it can be living on Ben Benton he

784
00:33:16,110 --> 00:33:14,380
regardless of the amount of caves and

785
00:33:19,410 --> 00:33:16,120
sea tunnels that there are below those

786
00:33:20,700 --> 00:33:19,420
cliffs see it would have been seen when

787
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:20,710
are we getting glimpses of this thing

788
00:33:24,630 --> 00:33:22,690
but those years between the glimpses

789
00:33:27,180 --> 00:33:24,640
we're getting glimpses of this thing at

790
00:33:29,070 --> 00:33:27,190
flicks them but those years between so I

791
00:33:31,500 --> 00:33:29,080
can't believe that we wouldn't be seen

792
00:33:33,420 --> 00:33:31,510
that is the carriage that it would leave

793
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:33,430
in its wake I mean I asked him how much

794
00:33:37,710 --> 00:33:35,290
he thought this thing would weigh and he

795
00:33:39,690 --> 00:33:37,720
estimated it would weigh 300 pounds

796
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:39,700
now that would need to consume a lot of

797
00:33:43,860 --> 00:33:42,250
food when you've got a carnivore and I

798
00:33:46,650 --> 00:33:43,870
mean if it were omnivorous neveress it'd

799
00:33:48,690 --> 00:33:46,660
have to be grazing fields and it you

800
00:33:49,980 --> 00:33:48,700
know this report has seen anything like

801
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:49,990
that I mean these are these are

802
00:33:55,410 --> 00:33:51,850
listeners these are really off-the-wall

803
00:33:57,660 --> 00:33:55,420
stories and I'm not asking anybody to to

804
00:33:59,940 --> 00:33:57,670
necessarily take my word for it and but

805
00:34:01,830 --> 00:33:59,950
but but look at these things with an

806
00:34:03,750 --> 00:34:01,840
open mind and ask yourself you know if

807
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:03,760
these people continue to report this

808
00:34:07,830 --> 00:34:06,370
stuff a totally independent from one

809
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:07,840
another then we've got to have a grain

810
00:34:11,790 --> 00:34:10,450
of truth in it and like I said if just

811
00:34:13,710 --> 00:34:11,800
because science can't get his head

812
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:13,720
around it just because science says this

813
00:34:18,750 --> 00:34:15,570
can't exist and that can't possibly

814
00:34:19,950 --> 00:34:18,760
travel from that galaxy to here well

815
00:34:24,149 --> 00:34:19,960
that it might they might not be

816
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:24,159
traveling from that galaxy to do earth

817
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:26,290
they're already here everything tomorrow

818
00:34:30,720 --> 00:34:28,330
exactly more the way I think of it I

819
00:34:32,340 --> 00:34:30,730
think there are extraterrestrials or

820
00:34:34,230 --> 00:34:32,350
through busy us but I think a lot of it

821
00:34:36,690 --> 00:34:34,240
could be right here in a different

822
00:34:39,780 --> 00:34:36,700
dimension plane you know or a different

823
00:34:41,610 --> 00:34:39,790
vibration play even if you like I would

824
00:34:43,740 --> 00:34:41,620
agree entirely you know I mean we might

825
00:34:46,409 --> 00:34:43,750
just be one tweak away and we've sat on

826
00:34:48,060 --> 00:34:46,419
Radio one and they're on radio - and

827
00:34:49,710 --> 00:34:48,070
it's assumed it could be as simple as

828
00:34:50,350 --> 00:34:49,720
that just because we can't get his heads

829
00:34:52,660 --> 00:34:50,360
around it

830
00:34:57,760 --> 00:34:52,670
that not give that some of these advance

831
00:34:59,830 --> 00:34:57,770
will call them beings might have it

832
00:35:02,140 --> 00:34:59,840
admitted appear as magic to us I mean

833
00:35:03,940 --> 00:35:02,150
and it does appear like magic sauce I

834
00:35:06,460 --> 00:35:03,950
mean you know when we talked about the

835
00:35:07,930 --> 00:35:06,470
hannam be UFO landing with this is a

836
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:07,940
kiss I'm looking into at the moment

837
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:11,690
David but it's quite it's incredible to

838
00:35:18,070 --> 00:35:13,610
me it's incredible but I mean these guys

839
00:35:23,350 --> 00:35:18,080
at one stage during the series of events

840
00:35:25,420 --> 00:35:23,360
that went on from 96 97 and 98 well one

841
00:35:28,780 --> 00:35:25,430
of the guys that Steve claims that

842
00:35:31,420 --> 00:35:28,790
excuse me he saw three huge black

843
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:31,430
triangles traveling towards him from the

844
00:35:37,690 --> 00:35:35,450
coast to describe Hornby its he's

845
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:37,700
probably about three miles as the crow

846
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:39,290
flies from the coast although he can't

847
00:35:43,990 --> 00:35:41,090
see the sea because it's down in a bit

848
00:35:46,660 --> 00:35:44,000
of a dip and it were two guys from a

849
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:46,670
neighboring industrial unit to a few

850
00:35:50,260 --> 00:35:48,770
doors down and they're watching these

851
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:50,270
things and discussing on there and then

852
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:52,610
at one point Steve says they're gonna

853
00:35:57,190 --> 00:35:54,410
fly right over top of us and as he'd

854
00:36:01,030 --> 00:35:57,200
said those words these things switched

855
00:36:03,010 --> 00:36:01,040
off they didn't fly away this simple

856
00:36:05,020 --> 00:36:03,020
that is exact words they they just

857
00:36:08,020 --> 00:36:05,030
switched off once more moment they were

858
00:36:10,930 --> 00:36:08,030
there one moment they weren't now you'd

859
00:36:12,310 --> 00:36:10,940
have thought something these monstrously

860
00:36:13,810 --> 00:36:12,320
huge Tran doors but there were no

861
00:36:15,190 --> 00:36:13,820
navigation lights on and there were no

862
00:36:16,870 --> 00:36:15,200
sound to them but you would have thought

863
00:36:18,730 --> 00:36:16,880
that other people would have observed

864
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:18,740
them but it were almost like there was

865
00:36:23,620 --> 00:36:20,890
some kind of in term and connection with

866
00:36:25,300 --> 00:36:23,630
Steve's voice saying that these things

867
00:36:26,830 --> 00:36:25,310
are gonna fly right over top of us and

868
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:26,840
an acknowledgement and we just we're

869
00:36:30,700 --> 00:36:28,490
switching off of some kind of I don't

870
00:36:34,630 --> 00:36:30,710
know cloaking ability as he almost like

871
00:36:36,460 --> 00:36:34,640
chameleon like I don't know if so why

872
00:36:38,620 --> 00:36:36,470
didn't they do it all time or was that

873
00:36:40,590 --> 00:36:38,630
just designed for those guys was that

874
00:36:43,240 --> 00:36:40,600
because the following night obviously

875
00:36:44,980 --> 00:36:43,250
they had their UFO event I mean

876
00:36:47,410 --> 00:36:44,990
obviously if we were going to talk about

877
00:36:50,550 --> 00:36:47,420
woman but we should have started to

878
00:36:52,660 --> 00:36:50,560
equal seven hour ago to be on the stage

879
00:36:54,910 --> 00:36:52,670
but yeah I mean what you're saying

880
00:36:56,530 --> 00:36:54,920
there's a lot I do hear a lot of fun

881
00:36:59,320 --> 00:36:56,540
things that the very similar to that

882
00:37:00,780 --> 00:36:59,330
that things it seems like the mind could

883
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:00,790
actually come to these things up

884
00:37:04,180 --> 00:37:03,290
although I think to know what you're

885
00:37:07,359 --> 00:37:04,190
thinking

886
00:37:08,650 --> 00:37:07,369
I don't get it there's probably a bit of

887
00:37:10,839 --> 00:37:08,660
both in what you've just said there

888
00:37:14,530 --> 00:37:10,849
David you know I mean the mind can

889
00:37:16,180 --> 00:37:14,540
conjure them you know people who I won't

890
00:37:18,430 --> 00:37:16,190
say I don't want this to be tetanus a

891
00:37:21,010 --> 00:37:18,440
sweepings failing but people who all

892
00:37:21,730 --> 00:37:21,020
lean towards the structured nuts and

893
00:37:26,170 --> 00:37:21,740
bolts

894
00:37:29,980 --> 00:37:26,180
you can sort a solid UFO seem to see

895
00:37:33,010 --> 00:37:29,990
them and those to say that they're not

896
00:37:36,550 --> 00:37:33,020
doing those to say that this is not some

897
00:37:38,710 --> 00:37:36,560
kind of hive intelligence that can adapt

898
00:37:41,290 --> 00:37:38,720
and bend to whatever we want to perceive

899
00:37:43,210 --> 00:37:41,300
it says I mean it might be it might be a

900
00:37:45,579 --> 00:37:43,220
bit of a wild thought but you know I'm

901
00:37:47,470 --> 00:37:45,589
beginning to think that all of this

902
00:37:49,809 --> 00:37:47,480
phenomena is like we've said before is

903
00:37:52,240 --> 00:37:49,819
somehow connected and the fact that we

904
00:37:54,819 --> 00:37:52,250
get the cat sightings reported in the

905
00:37:56,859 --> 00:37:54,829
same place at a certain time of year

906
00:37:58,420 --> 00:37:56,869
there might be gaps in it of years but

907
00:38:00,880 --> 00:37:58,430
we get in the cat sighting what's

908
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:00,890
special about that area what's special

909
00:38:05,710 --> 00:38:02,930
about off bentham where these likes are

910
00:38:08,370 --> 00:38:05,720
seen but I mean another interesting one

911
00:38:10,870 --> 00:38:08,380
while we're on with the sheep

912
00:38:14,500 --> 00:38:10,880
mutilations for want of a better word is

913
00:38:16,990 --> 00:38:14,510
that the cliffs they're a tool to

914
00:38:21,220 --> 00:38:17,000
400-foot you know very various places

915
00:38:26,230 --> 00:38:21,230
and this year how does a seal get on top

916
00:38:28,260 --> 00:38:26,240
of the cliffs that there was a seal on

917
00:38:31,420 --> 00:38:28,270
top of the cliffs stripped of flesh

918
00:38:34,930 --> 00:38:31,430
that's not that's not something that an

919
00:38:40,240 --> 00:38:34,940
owl's gonna pick up even people to join

920
00:38:43,210 --> 00:38:40,250
eagle whatever you know something 150 to

921
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:43,220
200 pound in weight which these sort of

922
00:38:49,599 --> 00:38:46,930
beggars belief how it's possible but

923
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:49,609
that's that's what was was on top of the

924
00:38:54,130 --> 00:38:51,490
cliffs I mean I find it incredible and

925
00:38:56,170 --> 00:38:54,140
like I said nobody knows how it got

926
00:38:57,550 --> 00:38:56,180
there nobody knows what was what's been

927
00:38:59,859 --> 00:38:57,560
responsible for the deaths of these

928
00:39:02,859 --> 00:38:59,869
animals but just because we don't know

929
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:02,869
doesn't mean that we should we can't

930
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:05,210
categorize it that that's why probably

931
00:39:09,190 --> 00:39:06,650
that's why there's been nothing on in

932
00:39:12,010 --> 00:39:09,200
the papers and nothing you know in the

933
00:39:13,660 --> 00:39:12,020
local news about them because nobody's

934
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:13,670
got a clue now and all it does is just

935
00:39:16,599 --> 00:39:15,050
scares everybody and I think well

936
00:39:18,309 --> 00:39:16,609
because we've got no answer for it but

937
00:39:22,479 --> 00:39:18,319
we could obscure you anyway

938
00:39:23,709 --> 00:39:22,489
yeah well you know it because well just

939
00:39:25,839 --> 00:39:23,719
once are the people that have said

940
00:39:27,489 --> 00:39:25,849
surely police have been involved purely

941
00:39:29,499 --> 00:39:27,499
police know about it well there you go

942
00:39:32,709 --> 00:39:29,509
yeah they do they're fully aware of it

943
00:39:35,650 --> 00:39:32,719
but they've not got a clue what's doing

944
00:39:38,739 --> 00:39:35,660
it I can assure you and neither have I

945
00:39:40,359 --> 00:39:38,749
all I know is that we within this area

946
00:39:42,519 --> 00:39:40,369
where there's a lot of unexplained

947
00:39:45,189 --> 00:39:42,529
phenomena presenting and that's another

948
00:39:48,999 --> 00:39:45,199
thing David you know in in the second

949
00:39:50,769 --> 00:39:49,009
book there's a guy who's walked a lot of

950
00:39:52,209 --> 00:39:50,779
things stand cliff Lane seems to get

951
00:39:54,609 --> 00:39:52,219
mentioned a lot and that's simply

952
00:39:58,059 --> 00:39:54,619
because that is your only route onto the

953
00:39:59,890 --> 00:39:58,069
cliffs for most people so you have to

954
00:40:02,140 --> 00:39:59,900
travel up cliff Lane but there's a guy

955
00:40:04,089 --> 00:40:02,150
in the second book that's warped cliff

956
00:40:06,099 --> 00:40:04,099
Lane depending on it is she retired now

957
00:40:08,409 --> 00:40:06,109
but but depending on his shifts it would

958
00:40:11,380 --> 00:40:08,419
have been morning or night for best part

959
00:40:13,209 --> 00:40:11,390
of 25 years and he's got three stories

960
00:40:15,789 --> 00:40:13,219
to tell that he's done he's done that

961
00:40:17,469 --> 00:40:15,799
walk every day for 25 years and my point

962
00:40:20,079 --> 00:40:17,479
is because people are coming up to

963
00:40:21,819 --> 00:40:20,089
Benton and Flamborough and rightly so

964
00:40:25,689 --> 00:40:21,829
expecting or hoping to see some

965
00:40:27,339 --> 00:40:25,699
unexplained phenomena and I like to tell

966
00:40:29,159 --> 00:40:27,349
them and I don't want to dampen people's

967
00:40:32,620 --> 00:40:29,169
spirits but the chances are you won't

968
00:40:35,349 --> 00:40:32,630
but then you sort of jumped back with

969
00:40:37,089 --> 00:40:35,359
the sort of punchline that I have to say

970
00:40:39,789 --> 00:40:37,099
but you are in an area where there's a

971
00:40:42,130 --> 00:40:39,799
higher probability than most areas to

972
00:40:44,559 --> 00:40:42,140
see something because I can't think of

973
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:44,569
anything that's not occurred up there

974
00:40:48,969 --> 00:40:46,729
you know has been men in black sightings

975
00:40:52,649 --> 00:40:48,979
there's missing time and I spoke on

976
00:40:55,959 --> 00:40:52,659
Howard Hughes show in December the 18th

977
00:40:58,569 --> 00:40:55,969
2017 Howard had received emails and

978
00:41:01,390 --> 00:40:58,579
texts from somebody who'd been walking

979
00:41:03,399 --> 00:41:01,400
with till friends at Benton on the 14th

980
00:41:05,169 --> 00:41:03,409
of December who saw her ironic that I

981
00:41:09,279 --> 00:41:05,179
were on the show I would put me in touch

982
00:41:11,169 --> 00:41:09,289
with him as well afterwards and they did

983
00:41:13,509 --> 00:41:11,179
lost almost two hours of time whilst

984
00:41:16,659 --> 00:41:13,519
doing the walk where this guy claimed to

985
00:41:19,449 --> 00:41:16,669
have seen they saw right dog creature on

986
00:41:21,669 --> 00:41:19,459
this year on February the 7th you know

987
00:41:24,069 --> 00:41:21,679
what same areas of throwing it up I mean

988
00:41:25,390 --> 00:41:24,079
and it's just it's just bizarre

989
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:25,400
no no you've got similar things

990
00:41:29,979 --> 00:41:27,890
happening at Rendlesham so you've got

991
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:29,989
you know you've wit Benton's not unique

992
00:41:33,260 --> 00:41:31,050
numbers not you

993
00:41:35,030 --> 00:41:33,270
these but they are highly unusual areas

994
00:41:36,620 --> 00:41:35,040
I mean I don't know what kind of

995
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:36,630
phenomena you've got presenting it to

996
00:41:41,180 --> 00:41:39,210
Rendlesham militia think everything at

997
00:41:44,810 --> 00:41:41,190
one time or another I've heard several

998
00:41:47,540 --> 00:41:44,820
stories about from from Giants aliens to

999
00:41:49,580 --> 00:41:47,550
like greys and reptilians and they've

1000
00:41:53,420 --> 00:41:49,590
been also so apart from the UFOs I mean

1001
00:41:54,620 --> 00:41:53,430
I've been in the woods in the middle of

1002
00:41:56,780 --> 00:41:54,630
night time two o'clock in the morning

1003
00:41:59,570 --> 00:41:56,790
with Brenda Butler who you you probably

1004
00:42:02,300 --> 00:41:59,580
know and oh yeah yeah and we've seen

1005
00:42:04,970 --> 00:42:02,310
we've seen stars that actually start

1006
00:42:06,740 --> 00:42:04,980
moving and stop the move and stop you

1007
00:42:09,590 --> 00:42:06,750
know there was about four or five of us

1008
00:42:11,510 --> 00:42:09,600
one night watching these stars moving

1009
00:42:14,510 --> 00:42:11,520
and stopping so what they were I don't

1010
00:42:17,720 --> 00:42:14,520
know I've only ever seen one orb with my

1011
00:42:19,670 --> 00:42:17,730
pair or my bear eyesight like a red orb

1012
00:42:20,900 --> 00:42:19,680
and Brenda saw it at the same time and

1013
00:42:23,300 --> 00:42:20,910
she said to me did you see there and I

1014
00:42:27,490 --> 00:42:23,310
said yes I did see that one but normally

1015
00:42:31,940 --> 00:42:27,500
by what I get is all pictures with the

1016
00:42:33,740 --> 00:42:31,950
camera and normally if Brenda takes them

1017
00:42:35,630 --> 00:42:33,750
she gets better results than anybody

1018
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:35,640
else which is the amazing thing she's

1019
00:42:40,190 --> 00:42:38,370
got some sort of a power that her kind

1020
00:42:42,650 --> 00:42:40,200
of think you know what I call that she

1021
00:42:44,630 --> 00:42:42,660
seemed to draw him drawing some sort of

1022
00:42:48,890 --> 00:42:44,640
beings to them and talking about that

1023
00:42:52,340 --> 00:42:48,900
now rocky also say you've had bill will

1024
00:42:55,790 --> 00:42:52,350
cut up your way of Anu he wants to come

1025
00:42:59,090 --> 00:42:55,800
up of met bill several times and it is

1026
00:43:03,080 --> 00:42:59,100
interesting any is a nice guy is is full

1027
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:03,090
of enthusiasm I'd like to see what what

1028
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:05,610
happens when he comes up and uses these

1029
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:07,410
cameras and just to see if anything does

1030
00:43:11,660 --> 00:43:09,450
happen I'm not doubting Bill at all I'm

1031
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:11,670
he's already shown me I've shown you

1032
00:43:15,230 --> 00:43:13,170
pictures of things but he showed some

1033
00:43:17,090 --> 00:43:15,240
amazing photographs that where his

1034
00:43:18,860 --> 00:43:17,100
hangar host and everything like that and

1035
00:43:21,020 --> 00:43:18,870
he's got his book coming out himself I

1036
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:21,030
think hopefully told him that this year

1037
00:43:25,220 --> 00:43:23,010
some I'm hoping to get bill on the show

1038
00:43:29,420 --> 00:43:25,230
- at some point around about that time

1039
00:43:30,950 --> 00:43:29,430
with his book comes out so but obviously

1040
00:43:32,990 --> 00:43:30,960
I would probably be seeing him a couple

1041
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:33,000
of times this year away a couple of meet

1042
00:43:40,010 --> 00:43:36,930
a couple of conferences won't we Chris

1043
00:43:41,870 --> 00:43:40,020
Evers which I'll be speaking on the 17th

1044
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:41,880
of August I think you saw August in it

1045
00:43:44,190 --> 00:43:43,530
forgive me Chris if I've got day Ron

1046
00:43:46,740 --> 00:43:44,200
thank you

1047
00:43:49,579 --> 00:43:46,750
yeah yeah and then that you've got your

1048
00:43:53,730 --> 00:43:49,589
own conference are you gonna come to it

1049
00:43:55,050 --> 00:43:53,740
yes I want to yeah yeah well we're

1050
00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:55,060
better tell everyone out there is the

1051
00:43:58,980 --> 00:43:56,650
colonel halt we chose the Woodbridge

1052
00:44:00,210 --> 00:43:58,990
Conference in Suffolk it's on September

1053
00:44:03,990 --> 00:44:00,220
the 8th if anyone would like tickets

1054
00:44:05,940 --> 00:44:04,000
contact me there's a few there's a few

1055
00:44:08,099 --> 00:44:05,950
left but they are going sort of steadily

1056
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:08,109
and we've got a little bit of time left

1057
00:44:14,940 --> 00:44:11,530
before that but well I have to say David

1058
00:44:16,530 --> 00:44:14,950
you know pressed to Colonel to be honest

1059
00:44:18,720 --> 00:44:16,540
we're and this isn't me sucking up like

1060
00:44:20,609 --> 00:44:18,730
people think it is but anybody that got

1061
00:44:23,790 --> 00:44:20,619
to listen to him at Chris elvis's

1062
00:44:25,410 --> 00:44:23,800
conference last year if you didn't get

1063
00:44:27,270 --> 00:44:25,420
to listen to him then you need to get to

1064
00:44:31,170 --> 00:44:27,280
David's because I will I've seen him

1065
00:44:33,620 --> 00:44:31,180
previously when John did the conference

1066
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:33,630
I don't know what year it was pretty

1067
00:44:39,060 --> 00:44:37,570
2015 when it all kicked off yeah but

1068
00:44:41,250 --> 00:44:39,070
things are very this is why the

1069
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:41,260
conference is called Colonel Holt

1070
00:44:46,500 --> 00:44:43,210
returns to would brief because it's kind

1071
00:44:49,589 --> 00:44:46,510
of a different thing now is kind of a

1072
00:44:51,240 --> 00:44:49,599
everything settled down and I think what

1073
00:44:53,819 --> 00:44:51,250
he was saying has been proven to be true

1074
00:44:55,980 --> 00:44:53,829
in everything like that so but a lot of

1075
00:44:58,530 --> 00:44:55,990
new a lot of new information has come to

1076
00:45:00,660 --> 00:44:58,540
light since he's written his first book

1077
00:45:05,130 --> 00:45:00,670
I don't really wanna talk too much cuz

1078
00:45:07,050 --> 00:45:05,140
this is your show but it's not all about

1079
00:45:10,410 --> 00:45:07,060
me and I've just briefly to stay on

1080
00:45:15,569 --> 00:45:10,420
whole I were amazed how sharp and

1081
00:45:20,250 --> 00:45:15,579
OnPoint that guy was you know he's a

1082
00:45:23,730 --> 00:45:20,260
lovely man he can't remember everything

1083
00:45:27,420 --> 00:45:23,740
that happened 40 years ago now but he

1084
00:45:29,069 --> 00:45:27,430
does try to give you some true rendition

1085
00:45:35,609 --> 00:45:29,079
of what he but what he believes happened

1086
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:35,619
you know it's difficult though you know

1087
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:39,010
David I mean to get it right all the

1088
00:45:43,050 --> 00:45:40,810
time I mean I had a spell last year

1089
00:45:44,970 --> 00:45:43,060
where I were talking on radio shows

1090
00:45:46,530 --> 00:45:44,980
pretty much every week and I felt and

1091
00:45:48,660 --> 00:45:46,540
I've turned some brilliant shows down

1092
00:45:51,300 --> 00:45:48,670
just recently including coast to coast

1093
00:45:53,069 --> 00:45:51,310
again but I will go back on from it

1094
00:45:56,250 --> 00:45:53,079
that's not a snob I've just about too

1095
00:45:57,660 --> 00:45:56,260
much on but it is difficult I found

1096
00:46:01,440 --> 00:45:57,670
myself talking about

1097
00:46:03,750 --> 00:46:01,450
they um James Bartley's show and I said

1098
00:46:07,230 --> 00:46:03,760
that the that Steve stood with the other

1099
00:46:09,329 --> 00:46:07,240
two witnesses Dave and Andrew watching

1100
00:46:12,390 --> 00:46:09,339
the triangles and when I listened to it

1101
00:46:14,789 --> 00:46:12,400
back I realized I thought what am I

1102
00:46:16,500 --> 00:46:14,799
talking about he didn't stand with Dave

1103
00:46:18,750 --> 00:46:16,510
and Anjali was stood with two other

1104
00:46:23,609 --> 00:46:18,760
operatives from a unit to further down

1105
00:46:25,710 --> 00:46:23,619
but so it is it is easy to to get your

1106
00:46:27,569 --> 00:46:25,720
story wrong shall we say and it doesn't

1107
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:27,579
necessarily mean you're lying I mean

1108
00:46:31,470 --> 00:46:29,290
because once again these guys have let

1109
00:46:34,890 --> 00:46:31,480
me I always possible ask them answer can

1110
00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:34,900
I record you you know mainly because he

1111
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:36,130
else when you're writing about the

1112
00:46:40,109 --> 00:46:38,770
stories so the only story is entirely

1113
00:46:42,329 --> 00:46:40,119
accurate I mean the things that were

1114
00:46:46,380 --> 00:46:42,339
happening but once again just to stay

1115
00:46:49,109 --> 00:46:46,390
with Bowman be in 1996 he started in

1116
00:46:51,990 --> 00:46:49,119
June and they thought it was poltergeist

1117
00:46:54,299 --> 00:46:52,000
activity there were bits of wood flying

1118
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:54,309
around in the workshop there were steel

1119
00:46:59,849 --> 00:46:56,410
washers hitting the side of the workshop

1120
00:47:01,740 --> 00:46:59,859
but my light bulbs would blow and the

1121
00:47:03,359 --> 00:47:01,750
radio and the power would cook yet the

1122
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:03,369
radio carried on playing that was

1123
00:47:07,260 --> 00:47:05,290
plugged into the mains and it blew all

1124
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:07,270
the circuits yet then they don't plug it

1125
00:47:10,620 --> 00:47:08,770
and it carried on playing they

1126
00:47:13,980 --> 00:47:10,630
attributed everything to poltergeist

1127
00:47:15,539 --> 00:47:13,990
activity because they found a grave when

1128
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:15,549
they were clearing the land the founder

1129
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:17,170
would engrave data from the eighteen

1130
00:47:22,319 --> 00:47:20,530
hundreds so these guys they found a box

1131
00:47:23,730 --> 00:47:22,329
you sir pardon me for saying a box I

1132
00:47:25,650 --> 00:47:23,740
don't mean to associate with a day but

1133
00:47:28,589 --> 00:47:25,660
they'd found a box to fit the phenomena

1134
00:47:30,839 --> 00:47:28,599
in but then he changed because he went

1135
00:47:33,690 --> 00:47:30,849
from June July in August of 96 and then

1136
00:47:36,420 --> 00:47:33,700
he stopped June July and August of 97

1137
00:47:37,620 --> 00:47:36,430
and Yung July and August of 98 and then

1138
00:47:39,650 --> 00:47:37,630
it all changed after the saw the

1139
00:47:43,890 --> 00:47:39,660
triangles because a few nights later

1140
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:43,900
they all had a classic flying saucer

1141
00:47:47,370 --> 00:47:45,970
sighting that was landed in the bottom

1142
00:47:49,530 --> 00:47:47,380
of the compound at home and they

1143
00:47:52,109 --> 00:47:49,540
interviewed all three men separately

1144
00:47:54,089 --> 00:47:52,119
they've not associated with each other

1145
00:47:57,839 --> 00:47:54,099
for one of them for about 10 years and

1146
00:47:59,099 --> 00:47:57,849
the other for about seven the one of

1147
00:48:00,750 --> 00:47:59,109
them didn't even want to talk about it

1148
00:48:03,900 --> 00:48:00,760
were on either I dragged the story out

1149
00:48:07,380 --> 00:48:03,910
of one guy and he put me in touch with

1150
00:48:09,599 --> 00:48:07,390
the other and they're all singing from

1151
00:48:11,390 --> 00:48:09,609
the same sheet they saw beings with

1152
00:48:13,190 --> 00:48:11,400
people want to call them aliens then

1153
00:48:15,890 --> 00:48:13,200
Lester mammalians but I don't know where

1154
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:15,900
they were from military presence the

1155
00:48:21,319 --> 00:48:18,450
it's an incredible story and I'm

1156
00:48:24,890 --> 00:48:21,329
reaching out to anybody who might

1157
00:48:29,089 --> 00:48:24,900
remember any military roadblocks around

1158
00:48:31,069 --> 00:48:29,099
1998 Holman Bay bridlington because

1159
00:48:33,799 --> 00:48:31,079
we've already got a rope a roadblock in

1160
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:33,809
Hornsea which is a few miles away we're

1161
00:48:38,569 --> 00:48:35,970
a triangle was seen flying low over some

1162
00:48:39,950 --> 00:48:38,579
fields by a retired Coast Guard and I

1163
00:48:41,749 --> 00:48:39,960
think I wrote about that in the first

1164
00:48:44,720 --> 00:48:41,759
book way before I knew about this story

1165
00:48:48,140 --> 00:48:44,730
and that's from 1998 and we've got

1166
00:48:50,150 --> 00:48:48,150
roadblocks in hummin be the night that

1167
00:48:53,660 --> 00:48:50,160
the flying saucer landed in the bottom

1168
00:48:55,730 --> 00:48:53,670
of the compound and that's exactly what

1169
00:48:57,680 --> 00:48:55,740
this what angel says he says it what a

1170
00:48:59,539 --> 00:48:57,690
plastic flying saucers I can't believe

1171
00:49:01,489 --> 00:48:59,549
it he said I think it was staged he

1172
00:49:02,809 --> 00:49:01,499
still does to this day he says there

1173
00:49:05,989 --> 00:49:02,819
were like a glass bubbling top and I

1174
00:49:07,279 --> 00:49:05,999
could see this little thing inside it he

1175
00:49:09,049 --> 00:49:07,289
said and I stood looking he says they're

1176
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:09,059
all mist around it and like she said

1177
00:49:13,430 --> 00:49:11,490
nurse I saw Steve walking down towards

1178
00:49:15,079 --> 00:49:13,440
it and then what you didn't see him get

1179
00:49:15,769 --> 00:49:15,089
taken he says but next thing he's not

1180
00:49:17,359 --> 00:49:15,779
there

1181
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:17,369
he said and then I walked to the front

1182
00:49:23,390 --> 00:49:20,130
of the unit he said then I opened the

1183
00:49:26,059 --> 00:49:23,400
side door and total military men dragged

1184
00:49:28,039 --> 00:49:26,069
me inside threatened they told me to

1185
00:49:29,150 --> 00:49:28,049
stay where I was and all three guys are

1186
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:29,160
telling a similar story but

1187
00:49:33,410 --> 00:49:30,930
interestingly they were all working

1188
00:49:35,329 --> 00:49:33,420
together David English me but they don't

1189
00:49:39,529 --> 00:49:35,339
remember beany with each other during

1190
00:49:41,900 --> 00:49:39,539
that period of time yes obviously I'm

1191
00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:41,910
touching on bits of astoria that have

1192
00:49:46,460 --> 00:49:43,650
probably sound a bit disjointed to

1193
00:49:48,079 --> 00:49:46,470
anyone listening and maybe we can we can

1194
00:49:52,819 --> 00:49:48,089
do home and they start to finish you

1195
00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:52,829
some point David Packard some time is a

1196
00:49:58,220 --> 00:49:54,690
female with actually in uniform were

1197
00:50:00,049 --> 00:49:58,230
they a lot high-ranking officer it's

1198
00:50:01,789 --> 00:50:00,059
black completely dressed in black

1199
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:01,799
head-to-toe and somebody sent me some

1200
00:50:07,220 --> 00:50:05,249
information recently and I'm a thanking

1201
00:50:12,529 --> 00:50:07,230
the going Philip omits a surname oh it's

1202
00:50:13,670 --> 00:50:12,539
not Philip mantel by the way no Philip

1203
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:13,680
Kinsella no and he sent me some

1204
00:50:17,809 --> 00:50:16,170
information regarding something that the

1205
00:50:20,390 --> 00:50:17,819
late Toni Dodd wrote about with the

1206
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:20,400
these military guys who were in black a

1207
00:50:24,700 --> 00:50:21,690
special unit they were in black

1208
00:50:28,060 --> 00:50:24,710
head-to-toe around the same time

1209
00:50:30,700 --> 00:50:28,070
excuse me just just to carry on with

1210
00:50:32,950 --> 00:50:30,710
Holman Bay these guys worked on a night

1211
00:50:35,349 --> 00:50:32,960
this was a second job and they worked

1212
00:50:36,970 --> 00:50:35,359
from about five o'clock to anything to

1213
00:50:39,070 --> 00:50:36,980
3:00 in the morning for three years

1214
00:50:41,410 --> 00:50:39,080
working on high-end vehicles and they

1215
00:50:43,540 --> 00:50:41,420
were used to sign write vehicles and do

1216
00:50:45,599 --> 00:50:43,550
fairground rides and sometimes on the

1217
00:50:49,270 --> 00:50:45,609
weekend they'd stay the night there and

1218
00:50:50,950 --> 00:50:49,280
Dave um briefly fitness in Dave's mom

1219
00:50:52,420 --> 00:50:50,960
and dad used to visit him because he

1220
00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:52,430
what youngest of the guys working there

1221
00:50:55,540 --> 00:50:53,690
and they'd come every night and just

1222
00:50:58,870 --> 00:50:55,550
have a nutter with him and fetch him a

1223
00:51:00,609 --> 00:50:58,880
few sandwiches and on the way home this

1224
00:51:02,620 --> 00:51:00,619
is the night that the Flying Saucer was

1225
00:51:04,630 --> 00:51:02,630
seen in the I'm gonna call it a flying

1226
00:51:08,650 --> 00:51:04,640
saucer cause that's what these witnesses

1227
00:51:10,450 --> 00:51:08,660
claim it look like they'd left at 10

1228
00:51:13,089 --> 00:51:10,460
o'clock and they never come back they

1229
00:51:14,620 --> 00:51:13,099
left but after the events after

1230
00:51:16,750 --> 00:51:14,630
everything had been happened because

1231
00:51:19,030 --> 00:51:16,760
everybody the three men all got dragged

1232
00:51:20,470 --> 00:51:19,040
back into the this workshop and the

1233
00:51:22,930 --> 00:51:20,480
workshops huge by the way you could

1234
00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:22,940
drive double-decker buses into it and

1235
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:25,130
they all got dragged in by men dressed

1236
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:27,770
in black and and threatened herb Dave

1237
00:51:31,930 --> 00:51:29,690
was dropped to the floor and pinned down

1238
00:51:33,310 --> 00:51:31,940
and threatened and not to move but after

1239
00:51:35,579 --> 00:51:33,320
everything had happened everything after

1240
00:51:37,780 --> 00:51:35,589
everyone had gone away although the the

1241
00:51:40,990 --> 00:51:37,790
everything had gone quiet and settled

1242
00:51:42,820 --> 00:51:41,000
Dave's mom and dad came back his mama

1243
00:51:45,460 --> 00:51:42,830
crying his dad were very frightened and

1244
00:51:48,010 --> 00:51:45,470
when they drove home that night they'd

1245
00:51:49,510 --> 00:51:48,020
be stopped by a military roadblock beats

1246
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:49,520
a small one but they'd been stopped

1247
00:51:54,250 --> 00:51:52,010
taken out of their care and sat in the

1248
00:51:56,410 --> 00:51:54,260
back of a black van where they were and

1249
00:51:57,910 --> 00:51:56,420
we'll call him soldiers but they're not

1250
00:51:59,410 --> 00:51:57,920
soldiers even termed that we're looking

1251
00:52:02,980 --> 00:51:59,420
at I mean there must be some special

1252
00:52:04,089 --> 00:52:02,990
unit everything were black and and they

1253
00:52:05,890 --> 00:52:04,099
were threatened and they were told that

1254
00:52:07,810 --> 00:52:05,900
they knew where they lived knew what

1255
00:52:09,490 --> 00:52:07,820
cars they drove obviously video what car

1256
00:52:11,470 --> 00:52:09,500
they were driving that night they knew

1257
00:52:13,240 --> 00:52:11,480
everything basically about them then

1258
00:52:16,329 --> 00:52:13,250
they released them and they went baton

1259
00:52:18,010 --> 00:52:16,339
and told the Sun and they told Steve and

1260
00:52:19,510 --> 00:52:18,020
they told Andrew because all this stuff

1261
00:52:21,670 --> 00:52:19,520
had already happened they were warned

1262
00:52:24,609 --> 00:52:21,680
not to speak about it they they're still

1263
00:52:25,900 --> 00:52:24,619
alive they wants to speak about it and

1264
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:25,910
Dave's asked his mom if she'll talk to

1265
00:52:29,109 --> 00:52:27,410
me but there's there's no way she's

1266
00:52:32,410 --> 00:52:29,119
gonna talk to me but the other three

1267
00:52:35,589 --> 00:52:32,420
I've got lots more to get I'm saying it

1268
00:52:37,510 --> 00:52:35,599
sounds a bit don't sound right thing get

1269
00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:37,520
out of I have lots more information to

1270
00:52:40,580 --> 00:52:37,890
try

1271
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:40,590
glean yet I'm I'm really keen to see

1272
00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:42,450
somebody must have experienced these

1273
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:45,810
roadblocks you know I don't have to

1274
00:52:49,610 --> 00:52:47,490
validate their story because I've been

1275
00:52:51,170 --> 00:52:49,620
back to the home and be industrial

1276
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:51,180
estate and it's still small by

1277
00:52:55,850 --> 00:52:53,010
Industrial Estate standards today even

1278
00:52:57,980 --> 00:52:55,860
20 odd years on and the the bus Breakers

1279
00:52:59,780 --> 00:52:57,990
yeah is still a few doors down from

1280
00:53:02,300 --> 00:52:59,790
where it took place and some of those

1281
00:53:03,740 --> 00:53:02,310
guys are still working there and they've

1282
00:53:07,030 --> 00:53:03,750
backed them up they've backed their

1283
00:53:10,670 --> 00:53:07,040
story up from 20 odd years ago from 1998

1284
00:53:12,290 --> 00:53:10,680
so I don't mean it's true because

1285
00:53:13,940 --> 00:53:12,300
they've backed it up what I mean they're

1286
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:13,950
not seeing these guys for years and

1287
00:53:17,570 --> 00:53:15,930
years and I've just done a bit of door

1288
00:53:21,350 --> 00:53:17,580
knocking I've been to the actual unit

1289
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:21,360
where the event took place just just to

1290
00:53:25,550 --> 00:53:23,370
see if any other paranormal activity has

1291
00:53:27,380 --> 00:53:25,560
ever taken place in that building

1292
00:53:29,660 --> 00:53:27,390
because as I previously told you David

1293
00:53:31,700 --> 00:53:29,670
you know we've got these steel washers

1294
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:31,710
flying about what bothers them they were

1295
00:53:35,810 --> 00:53:33,810
money materializing out of thin air and

1296
00:53:37,580 --> 00:53:35,820
pebbles drop in in front of them all

1297
00:53:39,410 --> 00:53:37,590
sorts of things they were coming out to

1298
00:53:40,940 --> 00:53:39,420
the vehicles on a night this is in June

1299
00:53:43,610 --> 00:53:40,950
July and August of the three year period

1300
00:53:45,580 --> 00:53:43,620
the huge animal prints on the boots and

1301
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:45,590
on the roof and on the bone it's

1302
00:53:51,620 --> 00:53:48,930
literally huge but no dinners no damage

1303
00:53:52,820 --> 00:53:51,630
to the cars you know this is the stuff

1304
00:53:55,700 --> 00:53:52,830
that were ampere happening and this is

1305
00:53:58,400 --> 00:53:55,710
why I was saying David I think I think

1306
00:54:00,200 --> 00:53:58,410
we've got to it's like a paranormal soap

1307
00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:00,210
I think we've got to encompass it all

1308
00:54:06,590 --> 00:54:03,450
and not no not stickers Ed's in one box

1309
00:54:08,240 --> 00:54:06,600
and say I am a UFO researcher so I won't

1310
00:54:10,430 --> 00:54:08,250
I don't want to talk to anybody was

1311
00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:10,440
interested in cryptid let's start

1312
00:54:14,330 --> 00:54:12,210
looking and throwing it a little bit

1313
00:54:16,700 --> 00:54:14,340
wider and think of me personally anyway

1314
00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:16,710
I can't speak for other people but let's

1315
00:54:24,050 --> 00:54:19,650
start encompassing it all last night was

1316
00:54:25,100 --> 00:54:24,060
I fully agree with you agree with you if

1317
00:54:26,660 --> 00:54:25,110
you've listened to a few of the other

1318
00:54:28,780 --> 00:54:26,670
shows we have actually covered things

1319
00:54:32,270 --> 00:54:28,790
out there on earth on a few of them I

1320
00:54:34,850 --> 00:54:32,280
saw this rotor I had on a few shows back

1321
00:54:36,980 --> 00:54:34,860
and she was telling stories about people

1322
00:54:39,890 --> 00:54:36,990
to go missing and you know pretty scary

1323
00:54:42,500 --> 00:54:39,900
stories but you know we've not even

1324
00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:42,510
touched on but that's the thing these

1325
00:54:50,630 --> 00:54:48,690
areas they actually take in and throw

1326
00:54:52,220 --> 00:54:50,640
out everything we've got missing people

1327
00:54:55,850 --> 00:54:52,230
at Benton

1328
00:54:59,390 --> 00:54:55,860
and believe me I've been I have been as

1329
00:55:01,340 --> 00:54:59,400
as respectful as I can be because

1330
00:55:03,110 --> 00:55:01,350
obviously somebody's loved one I've not

1331
00:55:05,030 --> 00:55:03,120
talked about them in any arbitrary terms

1332
00:55:06,620 --> 00:55:05,040
I've not I've not a lump them in saying

1333
00:55:09,380 --> 00:55:06,630
that I think they've been taken by

1334
00:55:11,330 --> 00:55:09,390
aliens cuz I honestly I don't know you

1335
00:55:13,700 --> 00:55:11,340
know I mean some people would want to

1336
00:55:14,990 --> 00:55:13,710
sensationalize it and add them aspects

1337
00:55:16,340 --> 00:55:15,000
in just because these are books about

1338
00:55:18,470 --> 00:55:16,350
one explain and phenomena

1339
00:55:23,030 --> 00:55:18,480
don't mean we've got to lower tone and

1340
00:55:25,190 --> 00:55:23,040
and somehow this disrespect somebody's

1341
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:25,200
loved one but basically you know we've

1342
00:55:30,980 --> 00:55:27,330
got people who have gone to those cliff

1343
00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:30,990
tops to to look at the sea birds such as

1344
00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:33,930
a guy called Nigel salmon Hodgson

1345
00:55:38,390 --> 00:55:35,850
amounts not sure of the date now the

1346
00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:38,400
thing for 2014 some of it went all over

1347
00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:41,610
the place looking at the wildlife and

1348
00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:43,170
packing up and in a little bit eccentric

1349
00:55:48,830 --> 00:55:46,050
but other than that that that's what he

1350
00:55:51,950 --> 00:55:48,840
did packed at Benton RSPB never been

1351
00:55:52,580 --> 00:55:51,960
seen again you've never ever never been

1352
00:55:56,120 --> 00:55:52,590
seen again

1353
00:55:58,010 --> 00:55:56,130
a guy called Edward mate ching-he he

1354
00:56:00,500 --> 00:55:58,020
wanted to go look at the seabirds you've

1355
00:56:01,970 --> 00:56:00,510
got a Trent to Bridlington obviously

1356
00:56:03,650 --> 00:56:01,980
well not obviously but he brought down

1357
00:56:07,540 --> 00:56:03,660
in Scarborough taxi dropped him off on

1358
00:56:10,850 --> 00:56:07,550
cliff lane because he was seen on CCTV

1359
00:56:12,380 --> 00:56:10,860
and I've spoke to Gales CCTV ities and

1360
00:56:14,140 --> 00:56:12,390
all that's been confirmed different

1361
00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:14,150
papers any row but I've done that and

1362
00:56:20,060 --> 00:56:17,010
took Cliff Lane to the RSPB never been

1363
00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:20,070
seen again seven days later 60 miles up

1364
00:56:25,310 --> 00:56:23,010
the coast a guy called Nigel Savage is

1365
00:56:27,220 --> 00:56:25,320
with with these dogs two spaniel dogs

1366
00:56:31,850 --> 00:56:27,230
and he's gone to do a bit of fishing

1367
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:31,860
never been seen again but that's just

1368
00:56:38,150 --> 00:56:35,490
the tip of Styria you think about you

1369
00:56:41,690 --> 00:56:38,160
know it really is scary you know I mean

1370
00:56:42,500 --> 00:56:41,700
then these people I mean the from 2004 a

1371
00:56:45,740 --> 00:56:42,510
guy called

1372
00:56:47,900 --> 00:56:45,750
oh good god can't think of his name now

1373
00:56:50,900 --> 00:56:47,910
I'm sorry listeners but what the EPAct

1374
00:56:53,990 --> 00:56:50,910
up to do a day's walking never been seen

1375
00:56:56,720 --> 00:56:54,000
again in between that there are people

1376
00:56:58,010 --> 00:56:56,730
that have had let's say challenges in

1377
00:56:59,960 --> 00:56:58,020
their lives and the probably had

1378
00:57:01,070 --> 00:56:59,970
relationships that are broken down and

1379
00:57:02,630 --> 00:57:01,080
they've left a note and said they're

1380
00:57:03,710 --> 00:57:02,640
going to end the life and oh yeah sure

1381
00:57:05,390 --> 00:57:03,720
and then just probably the bodies

1382
00:57:07,190 --> 00:57:05,400
wouldn't you

1383
00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:07,200
usually you do yeah usually the end up

1384
00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:09,450
further down coast or there on the rocks

1385
00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:11,490
and I'm sorry to make you sound like

1386
00:57:15,890 --> 00:57:13,890
that but that that's what happens but

1387
00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:15,900
what I'm saying is they're not I don't

1388
00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:17,370
mean the hour they have just as

1389
00:57:20,720 --> 00:57:18,930
important these people but they're not

1390
00:57:21,380 --> 00:57:20,730
they're not other than what I will write

1391
00:57:25,340 --> 00:57:21,390
about

1392
00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:25,350
people that seemed fairly well-adjusted

1393
00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:27,330
that the ones of a better word have just

1394
00:57:33,020 --> 00:57:29,010
vanished I mean a contacted the missing

1395
00:57:34,550 --> 00:57:33,030
persons Bureau because yeah it looks

1396
00:57:37,490 --> 00:57:34,560
like a checkerboard of missing people

1397
00:57:39,290 --> 00:57:37,500
and I said you know and you've got these

1398
00:57:41,060 --> 00:57:39,300
names the names I've just mentioned but

1399
00:57:42,980 --> 00:57:41,070
there's about nine to eleven of them on

1400
00:57:44,330 --> 00:57:42,990
this board on a board mode probably

1401
00:57:45,980 --> 00:57:44,340
thirty on I don't know and I've said

1402
00:57:47,390 --> 00:57:45,990
you've got this person who's mister gone

1403
00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:47,400
missing and he lives in Hull you've got

1404
00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:49,290
this one in York you've got this one all

1405
00:57:52,190 --> 00:57:50,850
lived in and ricky'll you've got this

1406
00:57:54,650 --> 00:57:52,200
one another one who lived in New York

1407
00:57:57,710 --> 00:57:54,660
yes yes I support don't you realize

1408
00:58:00,950 --> 00:57:57,720
they've all gone missing in Benton yeah

1409
00:58:02,990 --> 00:58:00,960
and oh we don't correlate that we do but

1410
00:58:04,460 --> 00:58:03,000
you should be and I've told police

1411
00:58:06,020 --> 00:58:04,470
exactly the same they're missing a

1412
00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:06,030
massive trip there's something happening

1413
00:58:11,420 --> 00:58:09,930
here and probably the reason I don't

1414
00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:11,430
know it because they can't get the red

1415
00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:13,530
round what is happening I mean the

1416
00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:16,290
famous not the famous but the the usual

1417
00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:18,330
thing in the newspaper article itself

1418
00:58:23,570 --> 00:58:21,570
from some wife or husband is what way as

1419
00:58:26,450 --> 00:58:23,580
my husband vanished off the face of the

1420
00:58:28,490 --> 00:58:26,460
earth and and that's basically what it

1421
00:58:30,850 --> 00:58:28,500
seek what they appear to have done these

1422
00:58:33,830 --> 00:58:30,860
people have no no intention of

1423
00:58:38,710 --> 00:58:33,840
disappearing and they're just gone it's

1424
00:58:41,750 --> 00:58:38,720
it's very sad were there any answers

1425
00:58:44,870 --> 00:58:41,760
left with no answers and and the the

1426
00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:44,880
place is that I'm looking don't also I

1427
00:58:49,940 --> 00:58:47,010
suppose don't help these people as well

1428
00:58:53,450 --> 00:58:49,950
because I'm looking at alternative

1429
00:58:55,790 --> 00:58:53,460
things that most people I wants a

1430
00:58:57,710 --> 00:58:55,800
rational mind of people because the your

1431
00:58:59,900 --> 00:58:57,720
listeners of a rational mind adorable

1432
00:59:01,970 --> 00:58:59,910
like to think a lot of them are but but

1433
00:59:03,700 --> 00:59:01,980
they're not into this subject and they

1434
00:59:06,560 --> 00:59:03,710
wouldn't consider that anything

1435
00:59:09,140 --> 00:59:06,570
otherworldly could could be responsible

1436
00:59:11,030 --> 00:59:09,150
I mean until we know what it is I'm not

1437
00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:11,040
gonna hold my end up and say is either

1438
00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:13,050
all I'm saying is they are they are

1439
00:59:17,450 --> 00:59:14,730
disappearing and the disappearing in an

1440
00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:17,460
area where where these strange things

1441
00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:18,490
happen

1442
00:59:25,770 --> 00:59:21,210
you ever get any negative responses Paul

1443
00:59:27,900 --> 00:59:25,780
probably will now seriously I reviewed

1444
00:59:30,750 --> 00:59:27,910
you ever get people sort of say no go

1445
00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:30,760
away stay away from me or something I

1446
00:59:35,190 --> 00:59:33,490
haven't done you know I've had people

1447
00:59:38,370 --> 00:59:35,200
did they roll their eyes and think

1448
00:59:40,500 --> 00:59:38,380
you're cuckoo I mean it's what is

1449
00:59:43,470 --> 00:59:40,510
amazing you know because some of these

1450
00:59:45,390 --> 00:59:43,480
farmers are the the funniest and I noted

1451
00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:45,400
that after the big cat would have been

1452
00:59:51,450 --> 00:59:48,970
seen on social media he put a picture of

1453
00:59:53,070 --> 00:59:51,460
his house cat and put a toy tractor

1454
00:59:55,890 --> 00:59:53,080
outside of it and just trying to

1455
00:59:57,900 --> 00:59:55,900
generate a laugh at somebody else's

1456
00:59:59,760 --> 00:59:57,910
expense but it doesn't it doesn't

1457
01:00:01,890 --> 00:59:59,770
detract from the fact that it wasn't me

1458
01:00:04,260 --> 01:00:01,900
weren't Paul Sinclair reporting seeing

1459
01:00:07,290 --> 01:00:04,270
this but big black cat it was about

1460
01:00:10,080 --> 01:00:07,300
eight independent witnesses or just

1461
01:00:12,540 --> 01:00:10,090
asking the questions yeah so you know

1462
01:00:13,560 --> 01:00:12,550
but that's that's the nature of the game

1463
01:00:16,170 --> 01:00:13,570
and I won't say you've got to be

1464
01:00:18,390 --> 01:00:16,180
thick-skinned but you've just got to you

1465
01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:18,400
think and what's interesting as well is

1466
01:00:21,390 --> 01:00:19,930
that the guy that actually put the

1467
01:00:23,760 --> 01:00:21,400
picture of the cat I've actually spoke

1468
01:00:26,430 --> 01:00:23,770
to his son and got a UFO report off him

1469
01:00:28,050 --> 01:00:26,440
years before that landed on the road as

1470
01:00:30,510 --> 01:00:28,060
he's travelling on what's called short

1471
01:00:32,310 --> 01:00:30,520
lane between Benton and bridlington in

1472
01:00:34,260 --> 01:00:32,320
the early hours of the morning I didn't

1473
01:00:37,530 --> 01:00:34,270
put that on social media and as some

1474
01:00:39,150 --> 01:00:37,540
kind of insult and then you know that

1475
01:00:40,830 --> 01:00:39,160
there's another little bit to it as well

1476
01:00:42,570 --> 01:00:40,840
that the actual farmer or were ridicule

1477
01:00:45,090 --> 01:00:42,580
into actually had a UFO sighting with

1478
01:00:46,530 --> 01:00:45,100
his ex-wife but she's told me she made a

1479
01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:46,540
point of contacting me and telling me

1480
01:00:50,820 --> 01:00:49,450
you know and so these people really is

1481
01:00:53,700 --> 01:00:50,830
not all of them but some of them are

1482
01:00:55,920 --> 01:00:53,710
hypocrites I mean but you can't please

1483
01:00:57,720 --> 01:00:55,930
everybody David and I think providing

1484
01:01:00,300 --> 01:00:57,730
you you're respectful about what you're

1485
01:01:02,970 --> 01:01:00,310
looking into be that big the missing

1486
01:01:05,160 --> 01:01:02,980
people we just got a bit delicate off

1487
01:01:08,359 --> 01:01:05,170
somebody who claims to have seen a UFO

1488
01:01:10,380 --> 01:01:08,369
or a defining experience with some

1489
01:01:12,240 --> 01:01:10,390
something on the clifftops

1490
01:01:14,280 --> 01:01:12,250
on providing him you go into it with an

1491
01:01:16,320 --> 01:01:14,290
open map and try and judge the person

1492
01:01:17,970 --> 01:01:16,330
then I think that all worth speaking to

1493
01:01:19,740 --> 01:01:17,980
you I mean knowing you as I do I'm gonna

1494
01:01:22,020 --> 01:01:19,750
show you you approach with really

1495
01:01:25,740 --> 01:01:22,030
contact and you don't go in like a

1496
01:01:27,210 --> 01:01:25,750
Raging Bull when I know you for a fact

1497
01:01:29,849 --> 01:01:27,220
that you wouldn't do anything like that

1498
01:01:31,839 --> 01:01:29,859
and you'll be sensitive to their

1499
01:01:35,049 --> 01:01:31,849
feelings as well you just pray

1500
01:01:36,640 --> 01:01:35,059
King up a bit there oh all right I was

1501
01:01:39,759 --> 01:01:36,650
always just say oh I could hear every

1502
01:01:42,880 --> 01:01:39,769
cell forward I was just saying that so I

1503
01:01:44,650 --> 01:01:42,890
know you but knowing you as I do you'd

1504
01:01:46,450 --> 01:01:44,660
be very sensitive to their feelings and

1505
01:01:55,799 --> 01:01:46,460
you're a gentleman so you'd approach

1506
01:02:00,609 --> 01:01:58,180
think that's the only way we can be I

1507
01:02:08,549 --> 01:02:00,619
mean you know I know this big egos

1508
01:02:13,839 --> 01:02:11,200
well yeah but once again that's Fame

1509
01:02:17,710 --> 01:02:13,849
with everything into you know I mean and

1510
01:02:20,859 --> 01:02:17,720
I like to think I don't

1511
01:02:24,880 --> 01:02:20,869
actually everybody the same and that's

1512
01:02:26,440 --> 01:02:24,890
how I want to stay and I really don't I

1513
01:02:27,969 --> 01:02:26,450
don't want to be any different than that

1514
01:02:31,239 --> 01:02:27,979
you know I'm not looking I'm not looking

1515
01:02:33,789 --> 01:02:31,249
for sort of Fame or stab and I just just

1516
01:02:37,209 --> 01:02:33,799
believe me I quite enjoy doing I really

1517
01:02:39,430 --> 01:02:37,219
enjoy doing the research I love it it's

1518
01:02:41,799 --> 01:02:39,440
a thrill I mean I'm this week's on this

1519
01:02:43,870 --> 01:02:41,809
coming week cryptid research you know

1520
01:02:45,579 --> 01:02:43,880
you really ought to seek out its calling

1521
01:02:51,880 --> 01:02:45,589
Kielty and I'll be will be doing some

1522
01:02:55,690 --> 01:02:51,890
really early morning make a date with

1523
01:02:57,880 --> 01:02:55,700
you yeah I will do yes Colleen's bespoke

1524
01:02:59,380 --> 01:02:57,890
convict condition man radio and I know

1525
01:03:02,680 --> 01:02:59,390
if anybody's ever listened to Vic shows

1526
01:03:04,089 --> 01:03:02,690
but they're really good I mean you've

1527
01:03:06,370 --> 01:03:04,099
got witnesses there from all over the

1528
01:03:08,289 --> 01:03:06,380
world reporting things like what people

1529
01:03:10,599 --> 01:03:08,299
are seeing at flicks them and what you

1530
01:03:13,779 --> 01:03:10,609
and I'm just to briefly jump back to

1531
01:03:15,999 --> 01:03:13,789
these these cryptids you usually find

1532
01:03:18,400 --> 01:03:16,009
that the people have seen them you find

1533
01:03:19,779 --> 01:03:18,410
out second and you don't find out off

1534
01:03:21,069 --> 01:03:19,789
the person they're not raving that

1535
01:03:24,130 --> 01:03:21,079
they've seen this thing in most

1536
01:03:25,779 --> 01:03:24,140
instances then you have to go tread

1537
01:03:27,759 --> 01:03:25,789
gently and see whether you can get the

1538
01:03:29,109 --> 01:03:27,769
story out of them so they're not

1539
01:03:31,630 --> 01:03:29,119
volatile most at time they're not

1540
01:03:34,809 --> 01:03:31,640
volunteering these things up the guy all

1541
01:03:37,059 --> 01:03:34,819
claim to have seen this creature on

1542
01:03:39,279 --> 01:03:37,069
February the 7th of this year he put

1543
01:03:41,019 --> 01:03:39,289
those comments on and anybody wants to

1544
01:03:45,780 --> 01:03:41,029
go into Benton phenomena you'll find him

1545
01:03:59,890 --> 01:03:55,390
hello hello I think I might have lost

1546
01:04:05,020 --> 01:03:59,900
Paul something that you did not think

1547
01:04:06,010 --> 01:04:05,030
could exist and no and and it's not the

1548
01:04:12,700 --> 01:04:06,020
case with everything

1549
01:04:15,760 --> 01:04:12,710
oh now we're talking but I don't know

1550
01:04:17,650 --> 01:04:15,770
whether that's been yeah I'm not sure if

1551
01:04:19,450 --> 01:04:17,660
I recorded all right so we'll just carry

1552
01:04:23,980 --> 01:04:19,460
on can you any day I think I could hear

1553
01:04:25,329 --> 01:04:23,990
you can hear me right I think we've got

1554
01:04:28,780 --> 01:04:25,339
I think we've got a real occasion

1555
01:04:34,450 --> 01:04:28,790
problem can hear me Paul I can now yeah

1556
01:04:36,569 --> 01:04:34,460
so I think I just think we just think

1557
01:04:38,349 --> 01:04:36,579
we've got to just approach ah

1558
01:04:40,000 --> 01:04:38,359
everything's gonna bit wrong here with

1559
01:04:41,740 --> 01:04:40,010
this recording you know David it's er

1560
01:04:44,559 --> 01:04:41,750
it's broken

1561
01:04:46,200 --> 01:04:44,569
yeah I can hear you you can't no I can

1562
01:04:51,609 --> 01:04:46,210
hear you okay

1563
01:04:53,410 --> 01:04:51,619
Paul okay well you know droughts won't

1564
01:04:58,599 --> 01:04:53,420
have to do a song cut these bad bits out

1565
01:04:59,890 --> 01:04:58,609
at the end of it okay you know yeah

1566
01:05:04,000 --> 01:04:59,900
because I'm thinking we're live I

1567
01:05:08,410 --> 01:05:04,010
apologize yeah he'll throw out 2090 it's

1568
01:05:11,020 --> 01:05:08,420
throughout 2017 push yet but for some

1569
01:05:14,589 --> 01:05:11,030
reason the American military were upon

1570
01:05:16,450 --> 01:05:14,599
the cliff tops and obviously as I've

1571
01:05:18,309 --> 01:05:16,460
previously said I didn't find out about

1572
01:05:23,020 --> 01:05:18,319
the animal killings of the animal deaths

1573
01:05:24,609 --> 01:05:23,030
until New Year's Day 2018 but it had

1574
01:05:27,039 --> 01:05:24,619
been going on all throughout that year

1575
01:05:29,260 --> 01:05:27,049
hmm and we've got these Dodge Ram

1576
01:05:33,400 --> 01:05:29,270
pickups with this big green unit on the

1577
01:05:36,490 --> 01:05:33,410
back with the dish and a big generator

1578
01:05:37,990 --> 01:05:36,500
and they were on the clifftops they were

1579
01:05:40,780 --> 01:05:38,000
around the area where all these things

1580
01:05:42,220 --> 01:05:40,790
have been seen where they were roughly

1581
01:05:44,410 --> 01:05:42,230
where the animals have been mutilated

1582
01:05:47,589 --> 01:05:44,420
where the poor posts were being found

1583
01:05:50,140 --> 01:05:47,599
and obviously you can't link A to B but

1584
01:05:51,430 --> 01:05:50,150
you snap you SAS start of think to

1585
01:05:54,670 --> 01:05:51,440
yourself you know there's probably some

1586
01:05:56,500 --> 01:05:54,680
connections are they showing an interest

1587
01:05:58,569 --> 01:05:56,510
in this I don't think they're

1588
01:05:58,930 --> 01:05:58,579
responsible for him you know social

1589
01:06:00,730 --> 01:05:58,940
media

1590
01:06:04,599 --> 01:06:00,740
at the same time we're also reporting a

1591
01:06:06,700 --> 01:06:04,609
home a very very subtle humming sound

1592
01:06:08,020 --> 01:06:06,710
and people on social media were

1593
01:06:10,059 --> 01:06:08,030
reporting hearing it all around

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01:06:10,720 --> 01:06:10,069
bridlington and east yorkshire I did it

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myself

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01:06:15,160 --> 01:06:12,319
and I think you were coming from the

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01:06:17,170 --> 01:06:15,170
generator of this this military unit

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01:06:18,550 --> 01:06:17,180
that would up on the clifftops now I

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01:06:19,839 --> 01:06:18,560
don't know what it was doing and we've

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01:06:22,839 --> 01:06:19,849
got to understand that we're in a non

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01:06:25,420 --> 01:06:22,849
stable world and it could be nothing to

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01:06:27,819 --> 01:06:25,430
do with this paranormal astronaut that

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01:06:31,089 --> 01:06:27,829
will yeah but it nevertheless it is

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01:06:33,579 --> 01:06:31,099
interesting and interestingly enough the

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01:06:35,710 --> 01:06:33,589
military vehicles were seen again I

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01:06:37,780 --> 01:06:35,720
think it were two weeks ago the Steve

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01:06:39,430 --> 01:06:37,790
Nash Bridget told me it got a bit of I

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01:06:41,290 --> 01:06:39,440
think it was some pictures of them

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01:06:44,740 --> 01:06:41,300
and Andy ramsden have seen them as well

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01:06:46,569 --> 01:06:44,750
I have not seen them hmm anyway I think

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01:06:47,920 --> 01:06:46,579
what were their communication problems

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01:06:49,599 --> 01:06:47,930
Paul I think we'd better leave it there

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01:06:55,030 --> 01:06:49,609
because I've got a little bit of

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01:06:56,589 --> 01:06:55,040
chopping around to do would like to get

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01:06:58,900 --> 01:06:56,599
you back on again perhaps in a few a few

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01:07:01,900 --> 01:06:58,910
months we've got these own comforts is

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01:07:03,640 --> 01:07:01,910
coming up yeah I think the the the

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01:07:05,800 --> 01:07:03,650
awakening conference where you'll be

1619
01:07:08,589 --> 01:07:05,810
doing a presentation this will probably

1620
01:07:10,210 --> 01:07:08,599
go out after that so but the people will

1621
01:07:13,630 --> 01:07:10,220
hear it anyway please go beyond podcast

1622
01:07:15,309 --> 01:07:13,640
as YouTube and everything if anyone

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01:07:19,470 --> 01:07:15,319
wants to actually come and see you

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01:07:21,849 --> 01:07:19,480
you'll be appearing at some D Pontefract

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01:07:26,170 --> 01:07:21,859
yeah I'll be peering at the outer limits

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01:07:27,910 --> 01:07:26,180
conference on August the 17th I've seen

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01:07:31,000 --> 01:07:27,920
you there I'll perceive you awaken as

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01:07:39,849 --> 01:07:31,010
well next week so so we see he told us

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01:07:42,640 --> 01:07:39,859
we only lucky because I know he wanted a

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01:07:45,130 --> 01:07:42,650
lift but with the people who've appeared

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01:07:45,609 --> 01:07:45,140
in the documentary for us such as David

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01:07:48,940 --> 01:07:45,619
hanged

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01:07:51,370 --> 01:07:48,950
and Andy Ramsden and Bob they've got

1634
01:07:56,890 --> 01:07:51,380
tickets and we're just limited with

1635
01:07:58,359 --> 01:07:56,900
roaming care do you know how we spoken

1636
01:08:00,700 --> 01:07:58,369
to Chris for a while after getting talk

1637
01:08:02,260 --> 01:08:00,710
to him and see what he's up to but I

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01:08:04,240 --> 01:08:02,270
think we're all ready I don't know what

1639
01:08:06,970 --> 01:08:04,250
the setup is for talking it this is I

1640
01:08:11,760 --> 01:08:06,980
think he's being involved with with the

1641
01:08:14,970 --> 01:08:11,770
event or in the day you not to autopsy

1642
01:08:19,920 --> 01:08:14,980
comments yeah just lots of it amused me

1643
01:08:22,620 --> 01:08:19,930
literally assorted emotes you know army

1644
01:08:23,999 --> 01:08:22,630
yeah what are you what you find you do

1645
01:08:25,860 --> 01:08:24,009
David I mean I don't know about you but

1646
01:08:27,990 --> 01:08:25,870
you find it consumes you diffused

1647
01:08:30,090 --> 01:08:28,000
together you know you know very well

1648
01:08:38,999 --> 01:08:30,100
something's consumed me for the last

1649
01:08:40,349 --> 01:08:39,009
three or so years you know you must be

1650
01:08:42,720 --> 01:08:40,359
better for you know if there's well yeah

1651
01:08:44,160 --> 01:08:42,730
definitely yeah I mean since I'm doing

1652
01:08:46,950 --> 01:08:44,170
this shows helped me quite a bit because

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01:08:49,110 --> 01:08:46,960
um I'm able to speak to people not

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01:08:51,990 --> 01:08:49,120
children make it anything out of it or a

1655
01:08:53,579 --> 01:08:52,000
thief but it's actually um it's been

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01:08:54,870 --> 01:08:53,589
nice you know because there's a lot of

1657
01:08:56,579 --> 01:08:54,880
nice people out there and there's only

1658
01:08:58,950 --> 01:08:56,589
there's only a few rotten ones that so

1659
01:09:02,249 --> 01:08:58,960
you come across and that most people are

1660
01:09:03,780 --> 01:09:02,259
nice and you know there's just a few bad

1661
01:09:11,940 --> 01:09:03,790
eggs in the basket that really needs

1662
01:09:17,820 --> 01:09:11,950
sorting out yeah she whatever you're

1663
01:09:19,950 --> 01:09:17,830
doing I think things are coming to a

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01:09:22,260 --> 01:09:19,960
head down finishing so this is just hope

1665
01:09:25,530 --> 01:09:22,270
so anyway anyway Paul what's been

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01:09:26,519 --> 01:09:25,540
cooking it's been great talking to you

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01:09:29,039 --> 01:09:26,529
excuse me

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01:09:32,059 --> 01:09:29,049
I mean I had a bit of a sore throat this

1669
01:09:34,530 --> 01:09:32,069
last week or so so this could be coffee

1670
01:09:36,030 --> 01:09:34,540
anyway I've got to say goodbye for we've

1671
01:09:39,780 --> 01:09:36,040
got a bit of communication problems here

1672
01:09:40,890 --> 01:09:39,790
we have to sort out but anyway this

1673
01:09:42,900 --> 01:09:40,900
blues you've been listening to the

1674
01:09:44,700 --> 01:09:42,910
paranormal UK radio network and

1675
01:09:46,440 --> 01:09:44,710
paranormal dimensions I'm David Young

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01:09:48,480 --> 01:09:46,450
you've been listed reporting clear and

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01:09:51,510 --> 01:09:48,490
we're gonna say goodbye and thank you

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01:09:52,470 --> 01:09:51,520
Paul and come back again please thank

1679
01:09:52,800 --> 01:09:52,480
you very much damage it's been a

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01:09:54,660 --> 01:09:52,810
pleasure

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01:09:56,340 --> 01:09:54,670
I'll see you soon all right take care of

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01:10:01,320 --> 01:09:56,350
beside Paul then thanks for coming on

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01:10:03,240 --> 01:10:01,330
this is Bob ivory well I Colonel Charles

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01:10:06,960 --> 01:10:03,250
halt is returning to Woodbridge on the

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01:10:08,820 --> 01:10:06,970
8th of September 2019 it's a Sunday

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01:10:11,880 --> 01:10:08,830
tickets are twenty pounds for an all-day

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01:10:13,770 --> 01:10:11,890
UFO event with other great speakers if

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01:10:16,920 --> 01:10:13,780
you'd like tickets please get in touch

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01:10:23,280 --> 01:10:16,930
with me this is my email address it's

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01:10:25,180 --> 01:10:23,290
David Young 2qn at yahoo co uk it's

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01:10:27,770 --> 01:10:25,190
going to be a great event and

1692
01:10:29,689 --> 01:10:27,780
there's a few tickets left but so they

1693
01:10:33,800 --> 01:10:29,699
are going quickly so you need to act

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01:11:26,470 --> 01:11:20,700
[Music]

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paranormal dimensions is a regular